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re: Aggies: A question about Dennis Franchione's tenure at Texas A&M vs. Alabama.

Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:12 pm to
Was that the "Writer Mike" dude?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:20 pm to
ProjectPat, the non-paraphrased version is: "Haaaaaaalf the taaaaaaeeemms in caawwlleeeedddge footbawwllll lawsssst todaeyyyy and we plaaaayed a pretty goood taeeeeeeem."

As far as the '08 class:

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Josh Ayers
Injuries

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Aaron Buckley
FCS transfer

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Blake Chavis
Never made it in

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Leroy Chevalier
Injuries

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Rod Davis
Grades

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Tommy Dorman
QB -> TE -> gone

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Adren Dorsey
Grades

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Keon Furtch
Grades

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Derrick Hall
Never made it in

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Jeffrey Hyde
Career practice squad

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Tony Jerod-Eddie
4-year starter

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Chris Lathrop
Injuries

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Kyle Mangan
LB->FB->off the team

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Matt Moss
2-year JUCO starter

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Brian Thomas
3-year starter who left for Texas Tech, then failed out

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Joe V
Died in a car accident in 2011

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KJ Williams
Transferred to Sam Houston (played us last year)

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Andrew Wolridge
Transferred to Sam Houston
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45272 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:21 pm to
His "personal assistant, Mike McKenzie ... author of the infamous newsletter.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:21 pm to
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I was on the team that got beat bad by Utah and OU. Fran ran a similar program to Saban without the results. He was an absolute dick from the very beginning. He would berate his coaches in front of the team. When no one respects you, and you're losing, shite gets real. I've never despised a human being more than that "man."


Terrence Murphy laid bare a lot of what happened in the locker room on a famous thread on Texags a couple of years ago.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134272 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:28 pm to
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Terrence Murphy


T-Murph
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 4:30 pm to
He leached off of other coaches recruits at every stop. Brian Urlacher at NM, LT at TCU, a slew of good recruits at Bama...then he got to a barren A&M squad and didnt have much talent and screwed up the one great talent we had.
Posted by intothegrinder
Member since Oct 2012
50 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:00 pm to
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I've always wondered how he was pretty solid at Alabama and failed so miserably at Texas A&M.

Because he inherited more talent at Alabama, then he did at TAMU.

The 3 recruiting classes before Fran arrived at each school...

Alabama
1998: Superprep rated 6th class in the country
1999: Superprep rated 6th class in the country
2000: Superprep rated 5th class in the country

Texas A&M
2000: Superprep rated = 27th class in the country
2001: Superprep rated = 29th class in the country
2002: Rivals rated = 23rd class in the country
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:07 pm to
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His "personal assistant, Mike McKenzie ... author of the infamous newsletter.


Couldn't stand that guy. Fran thought he was the President or something, needing his own personal assistant / press guy.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
21951 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:24 pm to
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RC left holes. Fran left a goddamn grave.


succinct and accurate.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:32 pm to
I'm a little surprised it took this many posts for the newsletter to come up. To me the $1200 VIP Connection newsletter showed a remarkable lack of... well, lots of things. Propriety for one. I'd like to think not, but I'd guess A&M would have overlooked it if his teams won.
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 5:35 pm to
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townestoldme2: I was on the team that...


Thank you for your service!
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2548 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 6:19 pm to
Oh god, the horror of seeing smoke draw and option to the short side over and over and over.



He turned one of the best offenses in CFB into one of the worst of the modern era. That takes talent. I'm pretty sure he saw Dick-Rod's offense and assumed he could do the same with Reggie. When Tennessee exposed us in the Cotton, he already received an extension, albeit because Notre Dame came calling. After that i think he just tried to frick the dog. Poor Reveille.
This post was edited on 4/5/13 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Hair of the Dog
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
2205 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 7:21 pm to
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Alabama 1998: Superprep rated 6th class in the country 1999: Superprep rated 6th class in the country 2000: Superprep rated 5th class in the country
The best that money could buy.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
8260 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:11 pm to
Very interesting thread. Hadn't really thought about the guy in a while. I knew he sucked at A&M but didn't bother to look into the reasons. Great thread except for the (predictable) LSU fans douchihng everyting up.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:14 pm to
When we own them at everything head to head, It's to be expected.
Posted by FormMorm
Member since Jul 2012
389 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 8:46 pm to
I have nightmares of the Holiday bowl 45-10, Cal was good that year but they weren't that good... We didn't even look excited to be there, the team was always flat when Fran was coach. They never seemed hyped to play... Marshawn Lynch and Justin Forsett pimp slapped the whole A&M team
Posted by FrankWhite'56
Close to Austin - but not TOO close
Member since Feb 2013
1000 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:01 pm to
It was the Tennessee Cotton Bowl that convinced me to finally dump our season tickets.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134272 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 9:18 pm to
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Tennessee exposed us in the Cotton


That's an extremely nice term for what they did to us that day
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16164 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:26 pm to
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The best that money could buy


Like hell it was.

200K for Albert Means and Cam only goes for 180 a decade later?

Spending a lot =/= buying the best.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 4/5/13 at 10:27 pm to
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