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re: A&M supports LSU's desire to not play UF every year
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:50 am to bigbowe80
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:50 am to bigbowe80
quote:Ok. SO wil UGA. Sounds good for the conference and LSU's schedule as well as AU's. Of course, FSU and Miami could reemerge, and make life more difficult for the Gata as well. Muschamp may fail and send UF looking for the right fit like UT has been doing and like Bama did for several years.
Florida will mostly likely continue to be a top 10 factor as they have proven historically over the past 25 or so years. When you look at their natural fertile recruiting grounds in the state of Florida and the money and support they receive, there is no reason to think otherwise.
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:53 am to WDE24
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Well, then you were wrong weren't you. Or do we just shift the goal posts and then act like we said that in the first place?
Looks like 8 years they weren't a top 10 team in the last 2 decades. That is 40% of the time frame you referenced.
Oh you like splitting hairs don't you? Show me a school that has been more consistently a factor in the national scene more since 1990 year in and year out? Ohio State and USC and Oklahoma were down in the 90's Penn State has been down in the 00'S. Bama had a couple rough stretches.Florida State and Miami have been down since 01. So yea my argument is still correct.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:55 am to bigbowe80
You made a factual assertion and asked if you were wrong. I said you were wrong. You looked up the stats that then proved you were wrong and pretended like you were right. Not sure why you get mad at me for that.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:55 am to WDE24
Alabama is afraid to compete against LSU on a fair and even basis in football.
Why should they?
They just won the SEC West last year using Tennessee as a shield to protect them from playing the best from the SEC East.
Alabama loves that LSU gets both Georgia and Florida this upcoming season while they can hide behind the permanent opponent rule guaranteeing they will never have to play both Georgia and Florida during any given season.
For that matter, Alabama never gets South Carolina and Florida as LSU did in 2012.
Every year, LSU plays the best from the East while Alabama hides behind SEC East cupcakes in order to insure their so called Alabama Dynasty—Pure Chicken shite!
Why should they?
They just won the SEC West last year using Tennessee as a shield to protect them from playing the best from the SEC East.
Alabama loves that LSU gets both Georgia and Florida this upcoming season while they can hide behind the permanent opponent rule guaranteeing they will never have to play both Georgia and Florida during any given season.
For that matter, Alabama never gets South Carolina and Florida as LSU did in 2012.
Every year, LSU plays the best from the East while Alabama hides behind SEC East cupcakes in order to insure their so called Alabama Dynasty—Pure Chicken shite!
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:56 am to texasaggie08
Miles/LSU = uneducated whiny bitches
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:56 am to WDE24
I personally don't mind playing Florida every year...I'd rather be playing them than some of the other SEC schools
But there is no denying that the schedules are unbalanced...I don't think Slive and crew thought it through very well after adding Mizzou and A&M
Mizzou in the East is just dumb as well.....we need 2 more teams and a 9 game schedule, and let's lose the permanent cross rival crap...
But there is no denying that the schedules are unbalanced...I don't think Slive and crew thought it through very well after adding Mizzou and A&M
Mizzou in the East is just dumb as well.....we need 2 more teams and a 9 game schedule, and let's lose the permanent cross rival crap...
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:59 am to EvilVodka
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I personally don't mind playing Florida every year...I'd rather be playing them than some of the other SEC schools
quote:Agreed. And they always will be and always have been.
But there is no denying that the schedules are unbalanced...
quote:Shouldn't have expanded in the first place.
I don't think Slive and crew thought it through very well after adding Mizzou and A&M
quote:Agreed.
Mizzou in the East is just dumb as well.
quote:Not really, but it will happen in the next 5 years.
we need 2 more teams
quote:Yes.
a 9 game schedule
quote:Part of what makes CFB and the SEC great. I say we keep them.
and let's lose the permanent cross rival crap...
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:02 am to Sheetbend
quote:No they aren't and this is falling into the same trap as LSU fans by making this whole issue about LSU and Alabama.
Alabama is afraid to compete against LSU on a fair and even basis in football.
quote:And by beating LSU on the field.
They just won the SEC West last year using Tennessee as a shield to protect them from playing the best from the SEC East.
quote:I don't think they really care. Yes, it is inequitable some years, but that is the way cfb works. In 2011, AU played Clemson, LSU, Bama, Arky, USCe, UF and UGA. Great schedule IMO.
Alabama loves that LSU gets both Georgia and Florida this upcoming season while they can hide behind the permanent opponent rule guaranteeing they will never have to play both Georgia and Florida during any given season.
quote:No they don't. Every year, they play one of the best from the east. Some years they are the best, others, they are not.
Every year, LSU plays the best from the East
quote:UT is in a down cycle, but they are one of the best programs in college football history. On par with UF.
Alabama hides behind SEC East cupcakes
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:07 am to EvilVodka
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I personally don't mind playing Florida every year...I'd rather be playing them than some of the other SEC schools
I hope you enjoy playing Florida every year more than playing in the SEC C.G., because that is what you are being handed.
Bama doesn't mind playing Florida every year either, as long as it is in the SEC C.G.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:10 am to EvilVodka
Why does LSU get labeled as the whiners in this scenario?
LSU wants to play everyone, more often.
Alabama is the one that is resisting change. They want to play their special friend every year.
Why is one considered the whiner while the other is not? Say what you want... the whining is exactly the same. Your perspective dictates your tolerance of one over the other. But don't say you don't whine. You do.
And for the "Alabama built the SEC" crowd and the "Texas A&M has less say than LSU" bit... Seriously, STFU, troll. LSU is a CHARTER member of the SEC. We built this conference TOGETHER, and every member of the SEC has a seat at the table. That's one of the principles that makes us the greatest conference in the NCAA.
LSU wants to play everyone, more often.
Alabama is the one that is resisting change. They want to play their special friend every year.
Why is one considered the whiner while the other is not? Say what you want... the whining is exactly the same. Your perspective dictates your tolerance of one over the other. But don't say you don't whine. You do.
And for the "Alabama built the SEC" crowd and the "Texas A&M has less say than LSU" bit... Seriously, STFU, troll. LSU is a CHARTER member of the SEC. We built this conference TOGETHER, and every member of the SEC has a seat at the table. That's one of the principles that makes us the greatest conference in the NCAA.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:11 am to Sheetbend
If they had played Vandy instead of UF in 2007, they likely wouldn't have had the opportunity to kick OSU's arse in the BCS championship game.
LSU fans need to be careful what they wish for.
LSU fans need to be careful what they wish for.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:13 am to Sheetbend
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:14 am to texasaggie08
the national championship is still "mythical" if schedules are not equal. a playoff alone cannot make it the national championship "real".
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:14 am to WDE24
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Uh, except for a year or 2 they pretty much have been a top 10 team for the past 2 decades with no sign of dropping off anytime in the near future
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You made a factual assertion and asked if you were wrong. I said you were wrong. You looked up the stats that then proved you were wrong and pretended like you were right. Not sure why you get mad at me for that.
Nobodies mad. Without looking up the exact finishes over the past 25 years, I made the comment that Florida has pretty much been a top 10 team and one of the most consistent since 1990. Turns out I was right when I looked it up. You said I was wrong, yet you haven't shown me another team who has more consistently relevant year in and year out since 1990. Why would I be mad?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:15 am to Sheetbend
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Sheetbend
You really are a fricking idiot.....we just got done playing a home and away with UF and USCe.....
Troll
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:16 am to bigbowe80
quote:that wasn't your original assertion that I said was wrong.
yet you haven't shown me another team who has more consistently relevant year in and year out since 1990.
You said they were a top 10 team except for a year or two. I said that was wrong.
Had you said they were a top ten team except for a year or eight, I wouldn't have said you were wrong.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:20 am to SpqrTiger
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We built this conference TOGETHER, and every member of the SEC has a seat at the table.
Yeah...and these rivalry games that have been played for more than a century are what made the SEC the conference that it is today....the four members involved want to keep that intact.....ya'll want to trash that just do The Hat gets an easy shot at ATL? In 5-years Les Miles will be gone but these games will still be here.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:26 am to 14&Counting
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Yeah...and these rivalry games that have been played for more than a century are what made the SEC the conference that it is today....the four members involved want to keep that intact.....ya'll want to trash that just do The Hat gets an easy shot at ATL? In 5-years Les Miles will be gone but these games will still be here.
Keep em. You want your rivalry game, then keep them. But don't let out of division games affect division standings. That way LSU-UF can keep playing if they want, Bama-UT can keep playing if they want, but losing to either wont dictate SEC west standings...it would come down to the LSU-Bama game...as it should be.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:27 am to WDE24
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If they had played Vandy instead of UF in 2007, they likely wouldn't have had the opportunity to kick OSU's arse in the BCS championship game.
Or we could have met UF in the SECCG because UF would have had one less SEC loss and therefore represented the East in Atl.
ETA: beating UF in ATL or in Death Valley would have had the same effect. However, losing to UF in the reg season could have kept us from ATL.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 10:30 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 10:32 am to ibldprplgld
quote:Are you sure? there would have been a 3 way tie. I haven't looked at the three way tie breaker for that season had it happened.
Or we could have met UF in the SECCG because UF would have had one less SEC loss and therefore represented the East in Atl.
Either way, you would have beaten one less quality team and possibly wouldn't have made the BCS title game.
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