Started By
Message
re: A&M supports LSU's desire to not play UF every year
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:19 am to cajunjj
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:19 am to cajunjj
quote:
Why don't the SEC teams play every school like the big 12? I am sure Bama wouldn't like this as the last 4 years they have had a pussy schedule! This year Vandy, Ky., & Tenn.
WOW just WOW !!!
I'd love to kick the Mississippi schools, Mizzou, and vandy out. Go back to a 10 team conference, and have a round robin with every remaining team.
1
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:19 am to YStar
quote:
The problem is you guys only seem to care to find the most balanced "solution" when Florida is good. If Florida was Auburn-level every year and Tennessee was a powerhouse would you guys be complaining?
Make SEC West and SEC East matchups not count for East and West standings, then parity of scheduling would be better.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
Regarding non conference games, I'd love to see the meltdown if Alabama won the division because their loss against UT didn't count.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:20 am to bigbowe80
quote:Well, then you were wrong weren't you. Or do we just shift the goal posts and then act like we said that in the first place?
Looks to me like since 1990, Florida has finished ranked in the top 13 18 out of 23 times, with the 5 times outside included 3 of Ron Zook fail years, and then the other 2 were Urban Myers last year and Muschamp first year.
Looks like 8 years they weren't a top 10 team in the last 2 decades. That is 40% of the time frame you referenced.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:21 am to WDE24
quote:
FWIW- from 1992 - 2007 UT was 152-48 while UF was 157-46.
It has only been the last 5 years that UT has been down that makes it feel inequitable. The cycle will likely change and UT will be good again in a couple of years.
Thanks for looking up the stats, i didnt have time lol.
If you make division standings based off division games only, then you don't have to worry about the "cyclical" nature of college. Standing will be based on playing the EXACT same divisional teams.
Not sure why this hasn't happened, yet.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:26 am to Master of Sinanju
quote:
Regarding non conference games, I'd love to see the meltdown if Alabama won the division because their loss against UT didn't count.
Would that not mean that Bama would then have the best record in SEC West play and would therefore have earned the right to represent the West in ATL?
Not sure why you think that would be a meltdown.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:27 am to bamaboy87
quote:
Alabama built the SEC. And Tennessee helped I guess. Everyone else can kiss our golden blue-blood arse. We shouldn't have to give up a historic rivalry just because one team thinks it's not important. And aTm has even less say in it than lsu
Actually, A&M has as much say as anyone...maybe your University President shouldn't have agreed to expansion!
Bottomline is with 14 teams, the schedules are screwed up now...Bama and Company can't be like "Welcome to our conference, but you're doing things how we like from now"
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:30 am to EvilVodka
quote:Actually, if the Company is large enough, they can and have.
Bama and Company can't be like "Welcome to our conference, but you're doing things how we like from now"
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:30 am to EvilVodka
quote:
Bama and Company can't be like "Welcome to our conference, but you're doing things how we like from now"
This is exactly why the Big 12 is so messed up. Texas (and OU to some degree) call the shots. The SEC touts itself as treating all its member institutions fairly.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:30 am to ibldprplgld
quote:Because that just makes too much sense. Oh yeh, and you're a pussy for suggesting it
If you make division standings based off division games only, then you don't have to worry about the "cyclical" nature of college. Standing will be based on playing the EXACT same divisional teams.
Not sure why this hasn't happened, yet.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:35 am to ibldprplgld
quote:
If you make division standings based off division games only, then you don't have to worry about the "cyclical" nature of college. Standing will be based on playing the EXACT same divisional teams.
SEC is by far the best conference in the nation and the gap is widening yearly. SEC has produced seven straight champs, an unprecedented number. Why change the formula now? Because everything is not perfectly even? Guess what, it never has been nor will it ever. There are 120 plus CFB teams, equality of scheduling and almost every other facet of the programs have never been and never will be equal.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 9:36 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:38 am to ibldprplgld
quote:Because you essentially alienate the two divisions of the conference from each other making being in the same conference nearly meaningless.
f you make division standings based off division games only, then you don't have to worry about the "cyclical" nature of college. Standing will be based on playing the EXACT same divisional teams.
Not sure why this hasn't happened, yet.
Non-conference games against teams in the same conference make virtually no sense and dilute the game's and conference's value in a host of ways.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:39 am to bona fide
quote:
Because everything is not perfectly even? Guess what, it never has been nor will it ever.
So let's not fix it because it must arbitrarily be this exact way? Who says making divisional games count will hurt the SEC?
quote:
There are 120 plus CFB teams, equality of scheduling and almost every other facet of the programs have never been and never will be equal.
The SEC shouldn't concern itself with all 120 teams, just the 14 in the SEC. Plus, if the SEC gets complacent and doesn't evolve, other conferences may close that gap.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:44 am to ibldprplgld
quote:
So let's not fix it because it must arbitrarily be this exact way?
Your starting point is that a problem exist, most people do not see a problem.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:44 am to WDE24
quote:
Because you essentially alienate the two divisions of the conference from each other making being in the same conference nearly meaningless.
Isn't that what the SECCG is for? You play through your division, then the best team from the West meets the best team from the East. It makes less sense to have an LSU-UGA matchup possibly determine the leader in the SEC West (or East). It should come down to which team has the best record in its respective division.
quote:
Non-conference games against teams in the same conference make virtually no sense and dilute the game's and conference's value in a host of ways.
Not at all. It makes division games that much more important. You'll still have the cross division games, but more emphasis will be placed on how you fair against your divisional teams.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:45 am to texasaggie08
quote:
Im down with this. Heres a possible solution: Eliminate divisions, let teams who want permanent opponents keep them, play the rest of the games on a rotating schedule. The top 2 teams play in the SECCG.
Exactly, why would this be too much to ask for?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:46 am to WDE24
quote:
Non-conference games against teams in the conference make virtually no sense and dilute the game's and conference's value in a host of ways.
THIS.
In no sport anywhere that I know of are cross divisional results ignored in the standings.
Divisional games are already worth more because of the tiebreaker. A loss to a division foe is worth a half game more in the standings. I see no need to go further than that.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:46 am to bona fide
quote:
Your starting point is that a problem exist, most people do not see a problem.
Obviously the SEC office understands. Otherwise why would we have two years of bridge scheduling while the look over their options?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:47 am to WDE24
quote:
FWIW- from 1992 - 2007 UT was 152-48 while UF was 157-46. It has only been the last 5 years that UT has been down that makes it feel inequitable. The cycle will likely change and UT will be good again in a couple of years.
Maybe Tenn will bounce back maybe not, but the point your missing is Florida will mostly likely continue to be a top 10 factor as they have proven historically over the past 25 or so years. When you look at their natural fertile recruiting grounds in the state of Florida and the money and support they receive, there is no reason to think otherwise.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 9:48 am to pvilleguru
quote:
I'd love to kick the Mississippi schools, Mizzou, and vandy out. Go back to a 10 team conference, and have a round robin with every remaining team.
Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Ole Miss
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Page 8 of 17
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News