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Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:13 am to WDE24
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Except that the poster I was responding to (context) insinuated a different reason.
Well, I would argue that his insinuation is valid as well. If Tenn. had become and continued to be a dominant program, I highly doubt that Bama fans would be arguing so strongly for this "traditional rivalry" to be maintained every season. Perhaps I'm just old and cynical.
I don't fault people for arguing for things that benefit them. It's why people that argue strongly about our nation's fiscal problems will turn around and yell "hand's off" on programs that benefit them. It's also why I laugh at other SEC fans whining about LSU fans whining. You're damn right we argue against things that do not benefit us. You'd do the same, or you're an idiot.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:14 am to WDE24
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Fair enough. I wish you guys played all cupcakes and went undefeated every seasons. Sounds like fun. You could be the Boise State of the South.
We already have Bama.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:14 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:They most certainly would. That is why LSU fans are viewed as whiny on this.
If Tenn. had become and continued to be a dominant program, I highly doubt that Bama fans would be arguing so strongly for this "traditional rivalry" to be maintained every season.
AU plays a team that has been traditionally slightly better than us, but you don't see us clamoring for a change the way LSU fans are in the same scenario.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:15 am to WDE24
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Fair enough. I wish you guys played all cupcakes and went undefeated every seasons. Sounds like fun. You could be the Boise State of the South.
We already have one Bama.
ETA: Beat to it.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:16 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:17 am to BIG DADDY 73
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Were LSU fans and their alters arguing this point before 1/9/12?
No, you ruined us for life, and I, for one, am very very impressed with your contribution to Bama's victory on that date. 
to you. 
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:19 am to WDE24
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I don't understand how this is a hard concept for you.
It's not. I just disagree with you.
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You would if it would have taken a NC away from LSU.
Wasn't up for debate in 2007, so that makes 2007 a moot point since it's in the books and all.
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Won't matter if you weaken your schedule and it keeps you out of a playoff.
You have alleged it would hurt our SOS. I pointed to other teams that play one less top SEC East opponent and it hasn't affected them.
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No you aren't/ you are looking at Alabama only and crying that it isn't fair.
You say this. Not me.
I get it, your schtick is to, above all else, be contrary.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:19 am to texasaggie08
Did not read through thread, but it is obvious that the Aggie and USC ADs are looking at the long term big picture. They would like to win a national championship someday and understand that in order to do so, there has to be fairness in scheduling or the big dogs with the LAUGHABLY easy schedules will always win. If that is whining, I say whine on SEC brethren.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:20 am to WDE24
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They most certainly would.
Well, how can I argue with that declarative statement?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:22 am to Ldrake53
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If that is whining, I say whine on SEC brethren.
Yeah, the whining thing has been done and is stupid. Everyone "whines" when trying to get something that will benefit them directly (e.g., Saban and the bye weeks). The people who complain about whining are hypocrites, which IMO is far worse a sin.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:30 am to Mo Jeaux
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Well, I would argue that his insinuation is valid as well. If Tenn. had become and continued to be a dominant program, I highly doubt that Bama fans would be arguing so strongly for this "traditional rivalry" to be maintained every season. Perhaps I'm just old and cynical.
Yet again, where were the bama fans a few years ago that wanted to get rid of the Tennessee game after losing about 7 of the last 8 or so to UT? They were few and far between.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:31 am to pvilleguru
quote:While i see what you are saying, this scenario you described is completely different. In which of those 7 losses did it directly keep you out of the SEC GC? If during those years Bama was competing with LSU for national championships and Florida sucked, Bama would've saying the same things LSU fans are now. If you say no you're a complete liar. People are only vocal when a situation effects themselves. See Nick Saban "whining" about byes. And Saban "whining" about Thanksgiving games
Yet again, where were the bama fans a few years ago that wanted to get rid of the Tennessee game after losing about 7 of the last 8 or so to UT? They were few and far between.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:35 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:33 am to texasaggie08
quote:I am completely okay with this. I doubt it will stop the whining since people will say we have an unfair advantage of playing UT every year, but those people don't remember anything that happened more than a few years ago anyway.
I think the Big 10, in addition to going to 9 games, has also maintained only 1 or 2 of the cross division "rivalries", while every other team has 3 rotating teams instead of 2.
Not sure why the SEC can't do the same...everyone wins
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:35 am to lsupride87
We lost to UT in 99 when we won the west. It could have kept us out of it that year.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:35 am to UAFanFromNOLA
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but those people don't remember anything that happened more than a few years ago anyway.
why would that have any impact on how bad they suck now? It should be dynamic not static
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:38 am to lsupride87
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If during those years Bama was competing with LSU for national championships and Florida sucked, Bama would've saying the same things LSU fans are now. If you say no you're a complete liar.
I don't think you understand just how deep this rivalry goes. I don't care what the circumstances are, nothing would make me want to quit playing them.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:42 am to bamaboy87
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We shouldn't have to give up a historic rivalry just because one team thinks it's not important. And aTm has even less say in it than lsu
Do you think aTm and Tex was a historic rivalry? Do you think aTm is not better off dumping them a-holes...
I can support the perm opponents if the SEC does one rule change. Make division standings based on division games only. Then the playing field is level for all. Of course you could not stand that...
I like the LSU-UF game but the Bama-UT game does not even register on the Richter scale of significant games these days. Nobody gives a shite about it but Bama and UT. The other 12 members of the SEC could care less about it.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 11:43 am
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:42 am to pvilleguru
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I don't care what the circumstances are, nothing would make me want to quit playing them.
The LSU/Florida game is not near the same level of importance to either program. It was a forced arrangement during the conferences first expansion.
It has such outlived it's supposed "usefulness"
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:51 am to WDE24
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It is almost 100% a reaction from LSU fans to finishing on the short end of the stick in comparison to Bama the last few years.
TAM got the wrong side of the stick last year even though they beat Bama at Bama. Florida on TAM's schedule was key for Bama's SEC West title and eventual BCS Championship last year.
This year LSU has both Georgia and Florida on their schedule while neither Bama nor TAM has anything but SEC East cupcakes on their schedules. Why is that considered fair in the SEC?
Since fairness in SOS is not a priority for the SEC, why should the BCS take SOS in account when picking teams for the playoff system?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 11:58 am to Mo Jeaux
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I highly doubt that Bama fans would be arguing so strongly for this "traditional rivalry" to be maintained every season. Perhaps I'm just old and cynical.
Once again as has been stated many times, when TN was beating Bama like a drum in the mid 90's and reeled off 7 straight wins, did you ever hear a Bama fan suggest we drop them?
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