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re: 9.5 sacks in three years = #1 pick in draft
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:27 am to CNB
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:27 am to CNB
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Why the frick did you even mention it’s Saturday? What did I say that made you think I don’t know what day it is?
You're the one who made the slapdick comment about me having time to post here. It's Saturday and I'm not at work....like most people.
Eventually it's going to settle into your feable conscience that college football, which I watch alot of, ALSO takes place on...........Saturdays. I have two games on at once, all day, every Saturday. That includes SEC games too.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 9:29 am
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:28 am to CharlotteSooner
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It's Saturday and I'm not at work
So plenty of time to catch up on the week of sports!
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:28 am to CNB
No melting in this thread......when the #1 pick in the NFL draft is an edge rusher ....and he has a total of 9.5 sacks in three years of college playing time.....it calls into question the WTF were they thinking....l.
A fast 40 times measures how you run on a track with no one blocking you.....
Game stats measure how productive you are against opposition....
A fast 40 times measures how you run on a track with no one blocking you.....
Game stats measure how productive you are against opposition....
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:28 am to CharlotteSooner
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No. I don't have time for that with my job.
Yeah guys, be more considerate. We all know that Wal Mart is open 24 hours and that inventory never quits.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:29 am to CNB
Pretty much.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:30 am to Zgeo
Hutchinson gets compared to Watt but their only similarity is they are both white. Dude is too small and got handled when faced with nfl type talent of which there was little in the big10.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:30 am to Zgeo
None of our players racked up stats. Guess they all sucked. Good point ou fan. Enjoy sucking again.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:33 am to SneakyWaff1es
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It’s almost like he wasn’t asked to be a pass rusher in the defense he was in.
Get outta here with defensive scheme discussion. OU has not had nor seen a defense in at least a decade. They have forgotten.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:37 am to KaiserSoze99
What scheme do they run?
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:39 am to Zgeo
It’s almost like he wasn’t a starter til this year. Might blow your mind if I told you no player on our team had more than 6.5 sacks this year, Travon had 6.
How can that be? Georgia’s defense must suck.
How can that be? Georgia’s defense must suck.
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 9:40 am
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:44 am to Zgeo
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zero championships in last 20 years.....let's invite them to the #1 league in the country.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:46 am to Zgeo
quote:i thought Travon Walker was the #1 pick? He was a 5 Tech. He was not called on to rush a whole lot. That was left to Adam Anderson, Nakobe Dean, Nolan Smith, Robert Beal Quay Walker and company.
when the #1 pick in the NFL draft is an edge rusher
He's a great athletic player and will do very well in the NFL. Is he a #1 overall pick? I don't know. I typically leave that to the NFL experts and leave my personal opinion out of it.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:14 am to DawgsLife
#1 pick is supposed to be a proven commodity. 9.5 sacks over a three year career is not a proven commodity of a guy drafted to be an edge rusher.....if anything the combination of the speed indicated by his fast forty and the lack of sacks indicates he can’t get through blocks.....
I would pick him later and only due to potential.....not because of proven productivity.....
His agent should opt for more guaranteed money,...
I would pick him later and only due to potential.....not because of proven productivity.....
His agent should opt for more guaranteed money,...
Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:25 am to Zgeo
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#1 pick is supposed to be a proven commodity. 9.5 sacks over a three year career is not a proven commodity of a guy drafted to be an edge rusher..
Why do you keep insisting he was an edge rusher. He was not. He played 3 tech and 5 tech. Probably as much one as the other. I mean, had it been the same thing for one of your favorite players you would not bat an eye.
Like I said....is he the #1 overall? I have no idea. The NFL thinks so, and more often than not they are right. They do have some pretty notable misses, though.
Out of curiosity....who do you think should have been the #1 pick?
You should also understand that the #1 pick is not necessarily the best player....but the best player in their opinion that meets their needs and is the safest pick.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:30 am to DawgsLife
HE was drafted as an edge rusher......
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:14 am to Zgeo
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pick is supposed to be a proven commodity.
Good lord you are an idiot
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:29 am to Zgeo
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HE was drafted as an edge rusher.
And....? are you under the impression that a position ESPN puts beside a players name locks him into that position for the rest of his career?
You wanted to say he was not proven based upon his stats in college. That has nothing to do with what position or stats he might put up in the NFL.
Look up Ryan Leaf. Was he a proven commodity? because based on his stats in college they thought he was.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:41 am to Zgeo
Oregon coach Dan Lanning tells ESPN's Chris Mortenson that he thinks UGA's "Travon Walker's ceiling is as high as anybody's in this Draft, and that he will be a better NFL defensive player even than he was in college."
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:46 am to Zgeo
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Lol, not productive . But had a good 40 in the combine. Is this for real?
Seems like a risk for a first rounder . 9.5 sacks in three years sounds like back up numbers.
This is dumb for a number of reasons.
#1. Sacks aren't everything or even the goal of many plays. Sure they are nice, but the real goal is to simply affect the QB in a negative manner. There is no official stat for that, but it's going to be something coaches look at.
#2. Teams game plan around these kinds of players. This pretty much goes in hand with what I said above, however the effects are happening before the game even starts. They will call plays that have extremely short developing times. What you are less likely to see are deep developing plays that require the QB to sit in the pocket for a few extra seconds.
#3 Along those same lines, the sack stat doesn't tell you how much attention the guy is grabbing from the offense. Meaning how many blockers is it taking to contain the guy. I'm not familiar with the guys playing that much, but I know these are the things that actually matter to coaches, not a sack stat.
So when you cite a single stat as being the end all indicator of a player, I just think you are dumb.
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:48 am to BigMob
“e. But his 9.5 sacks represent the fewest career sacks by a defensive end/linebacker who went on to be a top-three pick since sacks became an official stat in the NCAA. He's also the only player drafted first overall in the common draft era (since 1967) to not make an All-American or all-conference team in college.l”
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