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2022 was a down year for the SEC Bowls compared to historical or recent history.

Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:46 am
Bowl record was 42%, which was the worst record for the SEC in a long time. Keep in mind, SEC was favored in 5 bowl games, but took L instead.
1. Florida favored UCF
2. Auburn favored Houston
3. Mississippi State favored Texas Tech
4. Tennessee favored Purdue (Ref did blow this though)
5. Ole Miss favored Baylor (QB hurt--not sure it would of mattered)

SEC has the best win % in bowls out of all conferences, historically at 56%, Last 25 years at 60%. The 10year avg back in 2018 was around 70% win rate to put it in perspective.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:47 am to
Should have been worse but A&M ran scared of wake forest and quit
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:52 am to
Not surprised. For the top SEC teams, it has become playoffs or bust. Many don’t care about playing in a non-playoff bowl game. Also, I would guess the SEC has more opt-outs, simply for the fact the SEC has the most draft candidates on a year-to-year basis. Last, when we have two teams in the playoffs, the SEC is getting matched against teams who finished higher in their conferences. For example, Baylor (1st in Big 12) playing Ole Miss (3rd in SEC).
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:01 am to
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Not surprised. For the top SEC teams, it has become playoffs or bust. Many don’t care about playing in a non-playoff bowl game. Also, I would guess the SEC has more opt-outs, simply for the fact the SEC has the most draft candidates on a year-to-year basis. Last, when we have two teams in the playoffs, the SEC is getting matched against teams who finished higher in their conferences. For example, Baylor (1st in Big 12) playing Ole Miss (3rd in SEC).



Historically, this has always been the case. Other conferences would only limit their top champion to a bowl game, while SEC would send all teams.

Even looking at more recent history(before the playoffs), the Peach bowl would be #2 ACC vs #5 SEC team. Most bowls were only 1 or 2 teams off.

You still have to take in consideration that the SEC was favored at the time of the bowls. We took 5 L to games we should of won and 1 upset with USC over North Carolina.
Posted by gamecockman12
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:03 am to
South Carolina did their part as 12.5 point underdogs to UNC.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:17 am to
Opt outs really hurt and we were paired with some teams that would have very few opt outs. (UCF, Houston in particular)

And, in all honesty...outside of Georgia, Alabama and Ole Miss the SEC as a whole was down. Kentucky and Arkansas had good years, but as a whole we were down.

Then with two teams in the playoffs the pairings got shuffled around. Best SEC non playoff team went from either Alabama/Georgia to Ole Miss and so on down the line. So that affected the pairings.

I mean, we can come up with a lot of excuses, but that's what they are....excuses. The SEC just wasn't quite as strong. BUT, we were still stronger than most if not all the other conferences.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:20 am to
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4. Tennessee favored Purdue (Ref did blow this though)




While the end was an issue...the 6 pass interference calls are what really killed UT...especially while letting stuff like this go uncalled in the last possession of regulation.



Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:26 am to
Huepel has you headed in the right direction, though and that has to be exciting for you.
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
Member since May 2014
305 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:33 am to
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Opt outs really hurt and we were paired with some teams that would have very few opt outs. (UCF, Houston in particular)


I agree that this has been an issue, but all TOP teams regardless are facing this issue. SEC RECRUITS better than everyone else...so we should have the depth. Some of these SEC losses were blow outs.

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And, in all honesty...outside of Georgia, Alabama and Ole Miss the SEC as a whole was down. Kentucky and Arkansas had good years, but as a whole we were down.


TN did slightly better than expected, Half the conference under-achieved. This is normal any year. For example, 2020 Auburn/TN/LSU/USC/Vandy under-achieved big.

Truth is that Auburn/LSU/FL went way lower than expected for 2021 season. Then all three failed big in the bowl games.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:47 am to
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Then with two teams in the playoffs the pairings got shuffled around. Best SEC non playoff team went from either Alabama/Georgia to Ole Miss and so on down the line. So that affected the pairings.


That's a good point. If Alabama loses the SECCG, or Georgia drops to say 5th after the SECCG, then that team likely plays in the Sugar Bowl (Georgia definitely, Alabama probably), so the remaining pairings for SEC teams gets a bit easier.

We had a losing bowl record in 2017 as well, when we sent two teams to the playoffs (5-6). This year we went 6-8 (played in an absurd 14 bowl games).
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:52 am to
I am not even attempting to troll Auburn when I ask why in the hell they were favored against Houston? Auburn limped to the finish line while Houston was a top 15 team.
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
Member since May 2014
305 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:57 am to
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That's a good point. If Alabama loses the SECCG, or Georgia drops to say 5th after the SECCG, then that team likely plays in the Sugar Bowl (Georgia definitely, Alabama probably), so the remaining pairings for SEC teams gets a bit easier.

We had a losing bowl record in 2017 as well, when we sent two teams to the playoffs (5-6). This year we went 6-8 (played in an absurd 14 bowl games).



This is not true. First ~3 to 4 SEC teams go to the a BIG 6 Bowl(including Playoffs) for the top teams. After these selections, it goes to the regular SEC bowl pairings. We've had more teams selected in top bowl in previous years, and had a way better win rate.

New Years Big 6 selections
2021 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Ole Miss, and Alabama
2020 = 4 SEC = Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, and Alabama
2019 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Florida, & LSU
2018 = 4 SEC = Georgia, Florida, LSU, and Alabama
2017 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Auburn, and Alabama
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1470 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:58 am to
Not surprising, I think the SEC probably has more opt outs per team (because of having more talent) and non SEC schools get more motivated to play the SEC

UGA and Bammer represented the SEC AWESOMELY, because we are head and shoulders the class of the SEC.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 10:00 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
2725 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:07 am to
Can't compare bowls "post opt out" to bowls "pre opt out". If it is a bowl outside of the playoffs, most of the articles written about them are in regard to which guys are not playing. Of course that gets to other players and they will start thinking it doesn't matter even more than before. Not all players don't care but more and more each year. These bowls were already losing their luster once the BCS came around but that was a slow leak. The playoff and the first few years of big name opt outs plunged a a freaking steak knife into that tire. Seems like it's a comparison between apples and oranges now.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:27 am to
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This is not true. First ~3 to 4 SEC teams go to the a BIG 6 Bowl(including Playoffs) for the top teams. After these selections, it goes to the regular SEC bowl pairings. We've had more teams selected in top bowl in previous years, and had a way better win rate.

New Years Big 6 selections
2021 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Ole Miss, and Alabama
2020 = 4 SEC = Georgia, Florida, Texas A&M, and Alabama
2019 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Florida, & LSU
2018 = 4 SEC = Georgia, Florida, LSU, and Alabama
2017 = 3 SEC = Georgia, Auburn, and Alabama


I specifically listed the playoffs because no other conference has sent more than 1 (unless you include Notre Dame as an ACC member for 2020). So most conferences will have, at worst, their #2 team playing in their top tie-in bowl. This year, only one P5 conference (B1G) outside of the SEC had their best team in the playoffs instead of in other bowls. So you have the #3 SEC team playing the #1 Big 12 team, for example.

My point still stands - the Big 6 bowl designation is irrelevant for this. It's playoffs, then everything else.
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
Member since May 2014
305 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:28 am to
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I am not even attempting to troll Auburn when I ask why in the hell they were favored against Houston? Auburn limped to the finish line while Houston was a top 15 team.


Probably because the game was in Birmingham, AL giving Auburn home field advantage and how we played against Alabama at the end of the season. It was a coin-toss of game IMO.
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Can't compare bowls "post opt out" to bowls "pre opt out". If it is a bowl outside of the playoffs, most of the articles written about them are in regard to which guys are not playing. Of course that gets to other players and they will start thinking it doesn't matter even more than before. Not all players don't care but more and more each year. These bowls were already losing their luster once the BCS came around but that was a slow leak. The playoff and the first few years of big name opt outs plunged a a freaking steak knife into that tire. Seems like it's a comparison between apples and oranges now.


I totally agree that opt outs are the driving issue, but I didn't expect it to be this bad. Still Worst bowl record for the SEC in recent times.
Posted by blairjs
Georgia
Member since May 2014
305 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:36 am to
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I specifically listed the playoffs because no other conference has sent more than 1 (unless you include Notre Dame as an ACC member for 2020). So most conferences will have, at worst, their #2 team playing in their top tie-in bowl. This year, only one P5 conference (B1G) outside of the SEC had their best team in the playoffs instead of in other bowls. So you have the #3 SEC team playing the #1 Big 12 team, for example.

My point still stands - the Big 6 bowl designation is irrelevant for this. It's playoffs, then everything else.


Don't forget my other point. This has ALWAYS been the case though recently or historically. Historically, other conferences would only allow their conference champions to Bowl games, while the SEC would allow anyone to get a bid. In recent times, regardless of 2 playoff teams or not, the SEC would be paired up to a higher paired team from another conference in Playoff/BCS or even prior to that. This is because SEC fans travel well.
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 10:38 am
Posted by JColtF
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Aug 2008
4749 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:17 pm to
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Should have been worse but A&M ran scared of wake forest and quit


This
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:23 pm to
I would say it was a great year for SEC bowls, 13 teams played post season except one chickenshit program tapped out 2 weeks before the game vs Wake FLorist.

When you send that many their are mismatches.

Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5877 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 1:39 pm to
The SEC and the nation as a whole was down this year.

In a better year, the type of teams that ended up making the CPFCG would've not even made the bracket or lose in the semis in the last few seasons.

Despite that, Deep South football still reigns over the top crust of the sport...
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