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re: 1995 Nebraska vs. 2020 Alabama
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:24 am to Trojan1998
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:24 am to Trojan1998
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But, could those Nebraska pass rushers penetrate the 2020 Alabama offensive line?
Would it matter? Alabama had a great OL but better yet, they had skill players left and right and Mac Jones could throw on a dime in less time those pass rushers ever got to him. Stats ?say it all but eye test says it better.
I’m not saying Nebraska would not have success running the ball, we all know that. But could their defense stop Bama offense? I say hell no.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:29 am to MullenBoys
And by the way, just so you know, Steve Spurrier never beat Miss State in our house. You know why? We ran the ball down his throat. Go look it up. That makes me think Alabama would beat Nebraska by 14 based on the soft defenses he had vs the run.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:38 am to Trojan1998
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think the 1995 Nebraska team could stay on the field against any of the national championship teams of the last decade. The only way they’d stop some of these modern offenses from scoring every time they touched the ball is by sheer luck. Also, I think the athletic talent on the defensive side of the ball from these teams would be more than enough to slow that offense down.
ETA: I also think 2001 Miami would get run off the field by a lot of these teams, but they had enough athletes to potentially be competitive. 1995 Nebraska didn’t.
ETA: I also think 2001 Miami would get run off the field by a lot of these teams, but they had enough athletes to potentially be competitive. 1995 Nebraska didn’t.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:56 am to Trojan1998
It is hard to compare teams within a season that didn't play each other or even common opponents.
It is impossible to do it year to year, and pointless to do it era to era.
95 Nebraska was the most dominant team within a season that I can recall. Their scoring in an option offense was ridiculous.
That said, that dominant option play in major CFB ended with Tom Osbourne. It could still produce yards and eat clock against teams running it well with superior athletes. But, the total talent depth of that team doesn't stack up to today's championship teams. Their D would be shredded by a HUNH spread offense or offensive clinics like Bama or LSU have put on in their last 2 Championship runs. If a team with high end D talent was well prepared for the option, Nebraska simply wouldn't keep pace.
Still, 95 Nebraska has one of the strongest claims to GoAT season.
It is impossible to do it year to year, and pointless to do it era to era.
95 Nebraska was the most dominant team within a season that I can recall. Their scoring in an option offense was ridiculous.
That said, that dominant option play in major CFB ended with Tom Osbourne. It could still produce yards and eat clock against teams running it well with superior athletes. But, the total talent depth of that team doesn't stack up to today's championship teams. Their D would be shredded by a HUNH spread offense or offensive clinics like Bama or LSU have put on in their last 2 Championship runs. If a team with high end D talent was well prepared for the option, Nebraska simply wouldn't keep pace.
Still, 95 Nebraska has one of the strongest claims to GoAT season.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:16 am to RockyStop
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the only team that could beat BAMA was BAMA this season
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:22 am to That LSU Guy
Whose rules are we playing with?
I would like to see the look on Osborne's face when he tried to stop the HUNH RPO Spread with their "Black Shirts" not being able to match up much less get off the field in down and distance situations.
I would like to see the look on Osborne's face when he tried to stop the HUNH RPO Spread with their "Black Shirts" not being able to match up much less get off the field in down and distance situations.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:48 am to Trojan1998
How the defenses perform would have a lot to do with which rules they were using. '95 rules allowed a lot of things that are now banned.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:51 am to lsudat10
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How would anyone know this?
Well LSU did hired Bo Pelini!
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:58 am to Trojan1998
I think ‘95 Nebraska is the best of all-time...but you have to look at teams from different eras in context of the era they played. With all the advances in training, S&C, and facilities, if the ‘95 Nebraska players grew up and played during today’s times, they’d likely be better. On the flip side, if the 2020 Bama team grew up and played in ‘95, they wouldn’t have had the advantages of the advances of today...and the offense didn’t have near the advantage rules wise that offenses today have...
That ‘95 Florida offense was one of the most prolific offenses, dominating the SEC with the fun and gun (which was kind of a precursor to some of the offenses we see today)...and Nebraska absolutely destroyed them...
That ‘95 Florida offense was one of the most prolific offenses, dominating the SEC with the fun and gun (which was kind of a precursor to some of the offenses we see today)...and Nebraska absolutely destroyed them...
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:09 am to Trojan1998
Probably not. But you get into the whole comparing teams from vastly different eras problem.
Let us say you go back in time and bring back the 1945 Army team, a team that was absolutely horrifying back in their day... they would likely lose to most FCS level teams and badly.
Now if you bring them back but they suddenly get the benefit of modern nutrition and training then we would all be saying that Army has far too many advantages compared to everyone not named Navy.
For the record 2020 Bama was a tremendous team. 2019 LSU was a tremendous team. Who would have won between the two teams? I kind of lean towards Bama because they could run the ball but I think 2019 LSU had the more dangerous passing attack. It would be a hell of a game.
Let us say you go back in time and bring back the 1945 Army team, a team that was absolutely horrifying back in their day... they would likely lose to most FCS level teams and badly.
Now if you bring them back but they suddenly get the benefit of modern nutrition and training then we would all be saying that Army has far too many advantages compared to everyone not named Navy.
For the record 2020 Bama was a tremendous team. 2019 LSU was a tremendous team. Who would have won between the two teams? I kind of lean towards Bama because they could run the ball but I think 2019 LSU had the more dangerous passing attack. It would be a hell of a game.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:31 am to Trojan1998
This all depends on what rules are being used. If w played by 1995 rules, Nebraska wins. If we play by 2020 rules, Alabama wins.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:39 am to Trojan1998
Since the 1995 Nebraska team is the GOAT, yes. They would put 60 up on Bama's defense this year.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 11:47 am to kywildcatfanone
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Since the 1995 Nebraska team is the GOAT, yes. They would put 60 up on Bama's defense this year.
What are the rules they will be playing by, Sherlock? Each team was built for the style of play the rules allowed for. Any brilliant football mind on the rant got that variable figured yet?
And how come you Mildcats don't talk more about that National Championship trophy you claimed in 1950 that sits so proudly in your showcase? You know, the one coach Paul "Bear" Bryant brought you. That makes 7 for the greatest.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:15 pm to Trojan1998
As I said last year, 2 completely different kinds of offenses in 2 completely different eras. Just be happy to be part of the conversation.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:47 pm to Trojan1998
No modern defenses would stop that 95 Nebraska option attack.
Nobody runs a 5-2 anymore and these modern nickel-based spread defenses would get pounded into strawberry oatmeal.
Nobody runs a 5-2 anymore and these modern nickel-based spread defenses would get pounded into strawberry oatmeal.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:49 pm to CharlotteSooner
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No modern defenses would stop that 95 Nebraska option attack.
Yep, which is why I said they would hang 60 on this year's bama team. I mean Florida scored over 50.
Nebraska had that option running to perfection, virtually impossible to stop. Would love to see it make a comeback.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:53 pm to kywildcatfanone
Modern defenses are nickel based and designed to stop the spread. That 95 Nebraska offense would beat them to a pulp, I don't care if it's Bama or anybody else. It's a poor matchup, schematically, for modern defenses.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 1:57 pm to Trojan1998
Nebraska would've easily taken down Alabama.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 2:20 pm to Trojan1998
2019 Alabama > 2020 Alabama
Only difference is that one had to play 2019 LSU, the other one didn't.
Only difference is that one had to play 2019 LSU, the other one didn't.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 4:00 pm to Trojan1998
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Could the 1995 Nebraska roster play with the 2020 Alabama team? I just watched highlights of Nebraska’s 62-24 win over Florida. Lawrence Phillips and Tommy Frazier could play at a high level today. But, I’m not sure if Nebraska’s defense could have gotten any stops against Bama’s 2020 offense.
In a time machine game, 2020 Alabama wins by a significant margin.
Relative to the era they played in, that's really hard to say. I know 1995 Nebraska gets a lot of love here but there are a couple of things to know...
1. 1995 Nebraska played in the last season of the old Big 8 Conference that was jokingly referred to as the "Big 2 Little 6" because Nebraska and Oklahoma won the conference just about every single year throughout the tenures of Devaney/Osborne and Fairbanks/Switzer. The "Little 6" were Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, Missouri and Colorado. Not exactly a Who's Who of football powerhouses.
2. Nebraska and Oklahoma regularly posted video game scores against weak Big 8 competition. But in the '80s and early '90s those seasons often included losses to Miami and Florida State, with their great defensive fronts. Nebraska did not face a strong defensive front in 1995.
2. After Switzer resigned under pressure following the 1988 season, Oklahoma fell off the map in the '90s. Colorado was the only team in the Big 8 that was consistently worth a shite besides Nebraska. I know that Kansas and Kansas State finished in the Top 10 in 1995, but if you're touting wins for GOAT status and you're talking about opponents from frickin' Kansas, well, that just doesn't really impress me.
3. What really gives 1995 Nebraska so much hype is the beating they gave Florida in the Fiesta Bowl. And while Florida was a great team that year, they did not have anywhere near the hosses in the DL and LB (or defensive coaching staff experience vs. the option) that the best Miami and FSU teams did when they routinely shut down the Nebraska running game. There wasn't a Jerome Brown, Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland, Derrick Brooks, Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, Jonathan Vilma future NFL All-Pro type running around knocking the shite out of people. Florida had some good skill guys, but they didn't have any bad asses and all of their best players were young. The Gators were ill-equipped to face a very physical team.
4. I know the 2020 defense wasn't one of Alabama's best, but an offense without a QB, TE or WR's good enough to even have a cup of coffee in the NFL aren't going to line up in the I and push around an Alabama defense.
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