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Who knows Cameras?

Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:39 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:39 pm
I need to purchase a camera to take still pictures of my products.

I was thinking of a getting a used Rebel T21 or T3I. Camera body, lens (18-56), remote and flash. Is that all I need?

I have a white area set up and some basic table top lighting. I would like to get some better lighting if anyone has something to recommend.

Pictures will be taken to put on a website but need to be decent shots. I am a inexperienced photographer but can learn...

Rebel T3I seem Ok? I have found a few good deals on lightly used ones...


TIA

Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:42 pm to
What are you selling?
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:43 pm to
Canon EOS Rebels are good DSLR cameras. I have the Nikon D5000 that I like better than the Rebel I had before because its 16 MP resolution and the movable screen. Makes taking shots where you have to hold it up above your head a lot easier. But unless you are a press photographer who is laying on the ground to take shots than any DSLR camera will be good for taking stills.



The first purchase you will want to make if you get a Canon or Nikon will be the battery pack/extra handle for the bottom of the camera. They are less than $100 bucks and really extend your use of the camera. These cameras have so many function that they are battery hungry.
This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 8:47 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71209 posts
Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:47 pm to
quote:

What are you selling?


Fishing lures. Need to be able to see some of the detail. I have a guy now who is great at taking them but he is busy and slow. I need to be able to do it myself...

This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 9:21 pm
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71209 posts
Posted on 3/4/13 at 8:51 pm to
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The first purchase you will want to make if you get a Canon or Nikon will be the battery pack/extra handle for the bottom of the camera. They are less than $100 bucks and really extend your use of the camera. These cameras have so many function that they are battery hungry.



My intention is to set up a place in my workshop and just leave it set up. A white background area with lighting. Tripod and thats about it. I can imagine that I will be taking it mobile that often... I know I need a remote to keep the camera still. I have some basic lighting but would like something a little nicer and cleaner than the rigged stuff I have now


Was thinking of something like this


This post was edited on 3/4/13 at 9:21 pm
Posted by CatFan81
Decatur, GA
Member since May 2009
47188 posts
Posted on 3/4/13 at 11:59 pm to
Rebel T31 should be fine for photographing fishing lures with the set up that you want. Just make sure you have a good lens.

Someone else recommended a Nikon D5000. If you can find one of them for a good price, that's a really good bet though. Better than the Rebel.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:29 am to
See if you can just get a body only and scrap that shitty 18-55 lens and get a better fixed macro lens with a lower f stop.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71209 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:35 am to
quote:

See if you can just get a body only and scrap that shitty 18-55 lens and get a better fixed macro lens with a lower f stop.


NYC, I was told by the guy who takes my shots now that I would be better off not getting the macro lens. He said I needed more depth

I am new to photography and learning as I go.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:39 am to
Not sure about that, your lures don't have that much depth, do they? I would think, laying flat, they would be about an inch or two tall.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71209 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 6:42 am to
quote:

Not sure about that, your lures don't have that much depth, do they? I would think, laying flat, they would be about an inch or two tall.


Most will probably be suspended by line, photographed then touched up a bit. My jigs and plastics will not be laying flat.

You will need to see the colors of the skirt and plastics..

This is what we have done in the past
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:24 am to
but how deep are they front to back from where you will be taking a photo of them.

I suggest finding the body only and renting a few lenses, until you find what works best for you. those 18-55 lenses are junk, and if thats all you will use(18-55), you would probably be better off with an advanced point and shoot. If you want a DSLR, scrap the shitty lens and get something with a low F stop, your photos will benefit.

Where are you finding the used camera? take a look at KEH, they are local, but known nationaly. Take a look at any canon or nikon and the newer sonys(you will have less lense selection with sony)

Call Ken Fosythe –Email – ken@keh.com Direct line – 770 333 4208

He is very knowledgeable and will help, they have a great selection of used, refurb, repackaged, etc..


Maybe Nortizzle will chime in as well


Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
71209 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 8:28 am to
quote:

NYCAuburn


Thanks man. I will give him a call. I was looking at a Rebel.. T3I possibly. Seeing used ones on Amazon and a few other places for around $275. Just looking to set up a simple station in my basement to photo baits for my website and to advertise with on various internet places...

The ones we have are good but he is just too busy to get around to my free stuff. LOL





Posted by whataboar
Little Rock, Ark.
Member since Sep 2009
479 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 11:12 am to
I think NYC has the best advice. Give someone over at KEH a call and they'll be able to help you out. A lot of the differences between the t2i, t3i and so on deal with the video aspects and wifi capabilities of remote flashes and all that.

I'd talk to someone who can make you a package based on what you want to do. If you tell him that you're wanting to shoot small products in a softbox with a flashes on either side of the box, and you're looking to minimize reflections and all that, they should be able to make you a package that does all that. Your flashes all have to go off at the same time, and you can get an inexpensive system to do that with a mix of new and used gear. Just talk shop, that's what they're there for.
Posted by Nortizzle
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:43 pm to
quote:

Maybe Nortizzle will chime in as well


I agree with, try b&h photo video, or amazon. those are the cheapest places ive bought from.

i use the kit lens that came with my 50d for my table top photography when i photograph my paracord bracelets. with it being well lit the kit lens is fine for that. Canon is the way to go. I own around 20 cameras. And about 3 canon dslr's
Posted by CapstoneGrad04
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Oct 2009
1098 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

The first purchase you will want to make if you get a Canon or Nikon will be the battery pack/extra handle for the bottom of the camera. They are less than $100 bucks and really extend your use of the camera. These cameras have so many function that they are battery hungry.


Woah there....a battery grip is really only needed if you're going to be out shooting a game or nature for several hours without any access to a battery charger. IMO, no need on spending a coupld hundred $$ on a grip when you can just get an extra battery and always keep one on the charges. Save that money and get a lens.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 4:18 pm to
more so, when it will only be used on indoor, light box shots. battery grips are good, but not needed hear
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

Who knows Cameras?



Bo Knows Cameras

Posted by Nortizzle
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Member since Nov 2006
23330 posts
Posted on 3/5/13 at 5:23 pm to
You're dumb. Most pros have a battery grip, not only for the battery life but the extra controls when shooting in portrait. I can't function without my battery grip.

But if you're shooting on a tripod doubt you'll need the battery grip right away.
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
22107 posts
Posted on 3/7/13 at 10:41 pm to
Make sure you use the macro setting when photographing your lures. It lets you get right on it with the ability to zoom in to get all the detail. Most autofocus cameras require you to be at least 3feet away from an object for it to focus. On macro it will let you get to within a few inches and with the zoom you can get incredible details like the individual threads in your lures
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