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Re-watching The Wire on HBOMax
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:50 pm
such a great show obviously.
Couple of things stand out on the re-watch
1. the influx of technology into the show and on the BPD.
In the first season, everything was about pagers, pay phones and typewriters. There were very few cell phones.
By Season 2 they at least had MS-DOS driven computers, the cops carried cell phones but they still typed their reports on typewriters
By season 3 the show is all about cell phones, Freamon and Prez are using somewhat recognizable computer programs, etc
2. You can take everything good and bad happening in Baltimore City Govt, Police, Inner City struggles etc and apply it to Baltimore today. Nothing has changed in 20 years.
3. You can take this same show and change the setting to just about any major American City and it still 100% applies today. So much govt corruption, insider deals, waste, manipulation and on and on
4. Pretty much everybody on this show is on a hustle. They are hustling different things but they are all in the same mindset. Money, Power, Career, Sex, getting high etc. The only character that immediately comes to mind that is not on a hustle is Cutty, because his storyline is about rejecting the life.
5. With as much MSM propaganda we are subjected to now, it is telling to see how Carcetti, et al use the media, how the media is willing to be used and the show's portrayal of public figures being afraid of an "oppositional" press.
Couple of things stand out on the re-watch
1. the influx of technology into the show and on the BPD.
In the first season, everything was about pagers, pay phones and typewriters. There were very few cell phones.
By Season 2 they at least had MS-DOS driven computers, the cops carried cell phones but they still typed their reports on typewriters
By season 3 the show is all about cell phones, Freamon and Prez are using somewhat recognizable computer programs, etc
2. You can take everything good and bad happening in Baltimore City Govt, Police, Inner City struggles etc and apply it to Baltimore today. Nothing has changed in 20 years.
3. You can take this same show and change the setting to just about any major American City and it still 100% applies today. So much govt corruption, insider deals, waste, manipulation and on and on
4. Pretty much everybody on this show is on a hustle. They are hustling different things but they are all in the same mindset. Money, Power, Career, Sex, getting high etc. The only character that immediately comes to mind that is not on a hustle is Cutty, because his storyline is about rejecting the life.
5. With as much MSM propaganda we are subjected to now, it is telling to see how Carcetti, et al use the media, how the media is willing to be used and the show's portrayal of public figures being afraid of an "oppositional" press.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 1:16 pm
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Posted on 4/12/21 at 1:06 pm to supatigah
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5. With as much MSM propaganda we are subjected to now, it is telling to see how Carcetti, et al use the media, how the media is willing to be used and the show's portrayal of public figures being afraid of an "oppositional" press.
Yeah I bet it's eye-opening how stark the differences are between then and now, today.
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4. Pretty everybody on this show is on a hustle. They are hustling different things but they are all in the same mindset. Money, Power, Career, Sex, getting high etc.
This is what makes the show so great. Nobody is purely good or purely bad. Everyone has good and bad about them, from the lowliest of dope boys to the highest of law enforcement and government officials. And the show plays both sides of every character so well. You're pulling for the cops and cussing the criminals at one point, and then siding with the criminals and cussing the cops later on. And it goes back and forth.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:15 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:17 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:This is a topic a friend and I go round-and-round about.
Nobody is purely good or purely bad. Everyone has good and bad about them
I submit that Gus had no blemishes, and Bird had no decency.
But other than that, you're 100% correct. Kima got stick time in The Pit when it wasn't needed, Freamon ran an illegal wiretap...almost no one was clean.
Except Gus.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:17 pm to supatigah
We are also currently re-watching The Wire.
We are on S2 right now and my wife keeps complaining that this season sucks.
I'm contemplating divorce.
We are on S2 right now and my wife keeps complaining that this season sucks.
I'm contemplating divorce.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:19 pm to supatigah
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3. You can take this same show and change the setting to just about any major American City and it still 100% applies today. So much govt corruption, insider deals, waste, manipulation and on and on
Shite David Simon could have just taken the same story line and placed it in New Orleans instead of doing "Treme". The mayor, NOPD, and newspaper interplay mirrors what the series detailed in Baltimore. They sho nuff could find plenty of locals to make it realistic.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:34 pm to supatigah
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4. Pretty much everybody on this show is on a hustle. They are hustling different things but they are all in the same mindset. Money, Power, Career, Sex, getting high etc. The only character that immediately comes to mind that is not on a hustle is Cutty, because his storyline is about rejecting the life.
Always thought they did a great job of dealing with the faults of the characters and focusing on the main characters driven by ego.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 2:52 pm to smash williams
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focusing on the main characters driven by ego
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:02 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
quote:This was my biggest complaint about the show. After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
I submit that Gus had no blemishes,
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:26 pm to Saskwatch
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Shite David Simon could have just taken the same story line and placed it in New Orleans instead of doing "Treme". The mayor, NOPD, and newspaper interplay mirrors what the series detailed in Baltimore. They sho nuff could find plenty of locals to make it realistic.
treme was a massive missed opportunity and a waste of HBOs money
Posted on 4/12/21 at 3:26 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This was my biggest complaint about the show. After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
yeah funny how that works
Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:34 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:I don't know about that. Scott was a piece of trash, Gus's superiors were blind to the facts.
This was my biggest complaint about the show. After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
I can't remember if Alma had a dark side.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:18 pm to Salmon
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We are on S2 right now and my wife keeps complaining that this season sucks.
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
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After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
i mean the industry wasn't portrayed in a pure way...but Gus and the female reporter? oh yeah they were Jesus reborn
i mean other than the first 2/3 of season 1, Prez gets ordained himself. he's a saint by season 4
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This was my biggest complaint about the show. After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
I don’t know, Gus had such a high view of journalism but not everybody on the show did, some of the shittiest people on the show were journalists
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:30 pm to Big Scrub TX
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This was my biggest complaint about the show. After revealing the horrible underbelly of every institution, why, wouldn't you know it was the showrunner's industry that was portrayed in such a pure way!
only gus (simon's self-insert) and alma were pure, the rest of the Sun employees were worse than the drug dealers
Posted on 4/12/21 at 5:34 pm to Carson123987
quote:Yes, that's right. + the evil corporation that bought the out.
only gus (simon's self-insert) and alma were pure, the rest of the Sun employees were worse than the drug dealers
Posted on 4/12/21 at 7:15 pm to supatigah
Couldn’t get past the first 10 minutes of episode 1
Posted on 4/12/21 at 7:55 pm to wartiger2004
I only pity you. What do you like to watch then? Just curious what you constitute entertainment.
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 4/12/21 at 7:57 pm to supatigah
Cheese getting it from slim. I love that scene greedy mf
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