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Bridge across a pond?

Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:13 pm
So, we dug a pond to use the dirt for our house pad. I'd like to put a bridge across it at it's thinnest point without driving pilings since it's 18 feet deep at that point.

The thinnest point is 42 feet across. Any idea what could be used to create a bridge that long? It would only have to support the weight of the lumber that I would deck it with and the weight of a few people.

I'm trying to not break the bank on this one and it seems like steel ibeams are definitely not cheap. Someone told me to consider finding a 50' mobile home frame and using it....

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:32 pm to
That's a long span with no pilings. What about something floating? 55 gallon drums and/or old pontoons from facebook have made many a houseboat that have held together for years.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 9:23 pm
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:51 pm to
The bed of a semi-trailer, ideally a reefer since they use aluminum decking. Should be able to find one for less than 10K and could be as long as 53 ft.

For sale in MS

Not sure how you'd get the hull off or what to do with it though.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38616 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:06 pm to
That is a long span so you need metal beams and you will need some serious pilings or footings at either end to carry the weight of those beams and to ensure the end of the bridge doesn't sink or slide down the slope. Do you care what the bridge looks like? If so, I would look at premanufactured pedestrian bridges but they ain't cheap.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
6868 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 4:28 am to
Floating dock set up as a bridge?
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 7:51 am to
The outdoor board just had a thread on a similar issue, but the guy was wanting to cross like 75 ft instead of 42, and wanted the bridge to support vehicles, not just pwople
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
29815 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:59 pm to
they make floating dock pods that tie together and you can deck over them LINK

also be aware that within about 2 years that pond will have filled itself in from erosion as the dirt slowly melts and settles to the bottom and fills in the deepest spots and it will only be 10-14ft deep at best so there is also the option of waiting to do the bridge in about 4-5 years

if it were me i would drive telephone poles in for the pergola building and then use the floating dock pods to make the piers leading out to it
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 1:05 pm
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 2/17/20 at 9:44 pm to
Is it 18’ Deep all the way across? Or maybe it gets deep in the middle? If you drive piles say 10’ from each bank, what would the depth be? 22’ is much more manageable.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 9:54 pm
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 10:54 pm to
What about a 45' storage container (connex box)? I've seen where they have some 45 footers. Thought about leaving the corners and roof, but cutting the top 2/3's out leaving a "knee wall" and then adding some tin to the top to make it look like an old time single car bridge.

But, would a 45' connex box be able to support it's own weight in the center if only supported on the edges? I don't know what their bottoms are built of...
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:59 am to
quote:

It would only have to support the weight of the lumber that I would deck it with and the weight of a few people.


I would strongly consider a cable or rope suspension bridge for this application, not only easier to DIY and cheaper, it would look cool as hell.

Plenty of plans on small scale suspension bridges online and kits avalable.
Posted by Ton Chou
On the Levee
Member since Feb 2010
757 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 7:24 am to
I know many people do it, but the soil testing company I used said that if the soil has enough clay to hold pond water, it has too much clay to build a house on.
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 8:25 am to
quote:

I know many people do it, but the soil testing company I used said that if the soil has enough clay to hold pond water, it has too much clay to build a house on.



This has absolutely nothing to do with the question that was posed. Don't know how we got here. But, in response, that's bullshirt.
Posted by Ton Chou
On the Levee
Member since Feb 2010
757 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 7:32 am to
Just letting you know you might want to have it tested before building. I’ll let the certified engineers that did my compaction and plasticity testing know they are full of shite.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 8:46 am to
Your response is not really relevant to the bridge over pond discussion and is a bit off course.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Just letting you know you might want to have it tested before building. I’ll let the certified engineers that did my compaction and plasticity testing know they are full of shite.



Lots of places have no clay at all and manage to both have ponds that hold water as well as support houses.

They were either clueless or just figured you for a simpleton and fed you BS.
Posted by OneAyedJack
Watson
Member since Sep 2019
219 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

Just letting you know you might want to have it tested before building. I’ll let the certified engineers that did my compaction and plasticity testing know they are full of shite.


Just letting you know that your statement didn't have anything to do with my original question. It added nothing of value to the conversation which was about a bridge over a pond.

But since we're here now... Compaction testing is required for every foot worth of fill dirt used in building a housepad here. "You might want to have it tested," is a silly statement because it's required to be tested by the permit office.

And, the "certified engineers" that did all three of my compaction tests (98%, 97% and 98% respectively) told me, to tell you, to tell your "certified engineers" that they are absolutely full of shite.

Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38616 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

that if the soil has enough clay to hold pond water, it has too much clay to build a house on.




You would treat the clay soils with lime to stabilize the shrink/swell factor of the clay. This is done all the time in areas like DFW with clay soils. The other way to deal with this is to drill piers down to bedrock or bell the piers at a certain depth if you don't hit bedrock.
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 2:41 pm
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