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re: 2022 Recruiting and beyond. (Updated: 20/JUN/2021)
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:26 pm to dbuchanon
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:26 pm to dbuchanon
Me Every Single Month:
Guys, it's ________, stop losing your shite, chill and get off of Twitter. Go watch some Peach Bowl highlights. LOIs are what matter -- not commitments.
Gator fans, every single month:
MULLEN'S GETTING DICKPUNCHED, EUUEUEUUEGUUGHEUGHEGUHEGUH, THIS CLASS IS FALLING APARTTTTTT.
I still remember when everyone gave up on Steele and I said he was going to come home eventually. If we lose out on Beck, oh well, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up transferring in a few years.
Guys, it's ________, stop losing your shite, chill and get off of Twitter. Go watch some Peach Bowl highlights. LOIs are what matter -- not commitments.
Gator fans, every single month:
MULLEN'S GETTING DICKPUNCHED, EUUEUEUUEGUUGHEUGHEGUHEGUH, THIS CLASS IS FALLING APARTTTTTT.
I still remember when everyone gave up on Steele and I said he was going to come home eventually. If we lose out on Beck, oh well, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up transferring in a few years.
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:31 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ill admit Id melt over a DT, but I feel good anout our QB room. We sll know Kirby just playin keep away like he did with Fields, he wont know how to use Becks talents.
Oh well
Maybe we get AR15 back
Go Gators!
Oh well
Maybe we get AR15 back
Go Gators!
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:34 pm to dbuchanon
I wouldn't count Beck or AR15 out. But the fact of the matter is: Even if we don't land a single QB this season our QB room is set for a few years.
2019:
RS JR Franks and Trask (if he doesn't transfer)
RS SO Jones
RS FR Jones
2020:
RS SR Franks and Trask
RS JR Jones
RS SO Jones
We're set well into 2020, and will definitely get a QB each cycle. There is literally no reason to worry.
2019:
RS JR Franks and Trask (if he doesn't transfer)
RS SO Jones
RS FR Jones
2020:
RS SR Franks and Trask
RS JR Jones
RS SO Jones
We're set well into 2020, and will definitely get a QB each cycle. There is literally no reason to worry.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Trask transfers after Spring. Franks goes pro a year early.
2020 we have redshirt sophomore Emory Jones and redshirt freshman Jalon Jones.
We need to have Richardson or somebody else at QB in this class. Maybe even 2. This is a bad miss for us, even if Beck wasn’t a perfect fit for the offense.
Need to regroup and get it figured out.
2020 we have redshirt sophomore Emory Jones and redshirt freshman Jalon Jones.
We need to have Richardson or somebody else at QB in this class. Maybe even 2. This is a bad miss for us, even if Beck wasn’t a perfect fit for the offense.
Need to regroup and get it figured out.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:42 pm to atlgator
Franks isn't going pro early and if Trask hasn't transferred yet he won't do it after Spring I don't think. He has to know he isn't starting right now, especially after it took him so long to even get Franks benched who is now on the upswing.
Trask may literally just be happy to go the coaching route and ride off into the sunset as a career backup like he was in high school.
That being said: We will take a QB this off-season, but I think it's more likely Trask and Franks will be here in 2020.
Trask may literally just be happy to go the coaching route and ride off into the sunset as a career backup like he was in high school.
That being said: We will take a QB this off-season, but I think it's more likely Trask and Franks will be here in 2020.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:48 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
If Franks is still here in 2020 I’d expect Emory to transfer. Don’t see him wanting to sit for 3 years.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 5:58 pm to Chad 23
I think it's far more likely that Franks is a graduate transfer. With Trask I understand -- Trask and Franks are practically the same, Trask is more accurate but he has the personality of a yam. Franks gets the team rallied.
But Emory is a much better fit for the offense than Franks and the one thing Franks has over him is size but that will close.
Or maybe he does leave early for the NFL after his Heisman campaign this year. Only time will tell.
But Emory is a much better fit for the offense than Franks and the one thing Franks has over him is size but that will close.
Or maybe he does leave early for the NFL after his Heisman campaign this year. Only time will tell.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:03 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ready for the Spring Game.. Get a better feel of whats going on
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:16 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I think it's far more likely that Franks is a graduate transfer.
Not happening. Franks wanted to go pro this year but Mullen told him to come back and build on this year.
Franks will be our starter and he will have a good season. I do not think Trask sticks around beyond the spring. He’s gonna be lost in the reps this spring between Franks as a starter and Emory’s role in the offense growing
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:27 pm to atlgator
It's funny watching how butt hurt you get straws. You dont run off your committed QB for another guy if you arent going to land the other guy..
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 6:44 am
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:39 pm to atlgator
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Franks wanted to go pro this year
Man, you're usually a really cogent and connected person, but I can't believe you think Franks would even be drafted this year, let alone make a scout team.
How many Quarterbacks can't even get 100 yards of passing against Missouri but his backup can?
How many Quarterbacks fail to get 100 yards before the middle of the third quarter not once, not twice, but four times over the year and make it in the NFL?
He can barely read defenses as it is at the college level, why on Earth would you think he's even remotely ready for the pros? He's not even half the passer Tebow was, who wasn't even known as a passer.
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Franks will be our starter and he will have a good season.
This year very likely, next season I doubt it. I think he will have an above average year this year if he stays focused.
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I do not think Trask sticks around beyond the spring.
Like I said: He has no reason to stay right this instant with the climate unless he thinks he has a legitimate shot at dethroning Franks. So he might leave, but it's weird it's taking so long. If he has zero chance to ever compete for the job here no matter how poorly the guy ahead of him plays, then it's definitely in his best interest to transfer -- even if it means going to a DII school.
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Franks as a starter and Emory’s role
I don't think Franks has near the ceiling of Emory, and I'd be shocked by year three if Emory isn't the guy. His only drawbacks are youth and size but he will make those up this year.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:45 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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but I can't believe you think Franks would even be drafted this year,
He would
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How many Quarterbacks can't even get 100 yards of passing against Missouri but his backup can?
This is irrelevant, Franks would ball out at the combine and a team would take him in day 1/early 2 on his arm strength and size alone.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:51 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Man, you're usually a really cogent and connected person, but I can't believe you think Franks would even be drafted this year, let alone make a scout team.
I said Franks wanted to go pro. Not that I thought he should go pro. I don’t think he would’ve been a top pick this year. I think he would’ve been drafted in the late rounds on size and arm talent.
But I do think he puts up better numbers next year than he did this year. And he will go pro, and he will be a first round draft pick. Franks is Josh Allen 2.0. Same size, same arm talent, better numbers against better competition.
I have no doubt about that.
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Like I said: He has no reason to stay right this instant with the climate unless he thinks he has a legitimate shot at dethroning Franks. So he might leave, but it's weird it's taking so long. If he has zero chance to ever compete for the job here no matter how poorly the guy ahead of him plays, then it's definitely in his best interest to transfer
I think he will see the writing on the wall when he sees how reps are divvied out in Spring ball.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 6:52 pm to atlgator
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I think he will see the writing on the wall when he sees how reps are divvied out in Spring ball.
Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:39 pm to dbuchanon
Short term, losing Beck only hurts if we can't get AR15 back.
Long term, I'm beginning to see clear parallels between the perception of the Florida program and Miami. Far too many recruits are viewing us as leverage for a bigger bag or for the offer they really want and not as an elite destination.
I trust Mullen to fix issue #1. I've been worried about issue #2 for about 6-7 years.
Long term, I'm beginning to see clear parallels between the perception of the Florida program and Miami. Far too many recruits are viewing us as leverage for a bigger bag or for the offer they really want and not as an elite destination.
I trust Mullen to fix issue #1. I've been worried about issue #2 for about 6-7 years.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 12:38 am to atlgator
The writing's been on the wall since Franks sucked it up against CSU, Georgia then Mizzou and Trask couldn't even get on the field.
Even when he did and outperformed Franks in every category many fans thought that it was still Franks' job to lose.
If he didn't see the writing on the wall then, he's likely not going to see it now. With two broken bones in his feet (potentially the same one), I would be more surprised if he didn't just get his degree and go straight into coaching.
And P.S., you guys are way off on Franks' NFL prospects. He would have to drastically improve his numbers. He's never even had a 300 yard passing game after two years of starting. He still has a ways to go. If he can get two this year and beat a good team with his arm, maybe.
That being said:
Beck or AR15, even if they don't come I'm comfortable with the QB room. We'll need to get a body, but we've got QB1 and QB2 for at least two more years.
Even when he did and outperformed Franks in every category many fans thought that it was still Franks' job to lose.
If he didn't see the writing on the wall then, he's likely not going to see it now. With two broken bones in his feet (potentially the same one), I would be more surprised if he didn't just get his degree and go straight into coaching.
And P.S., you guys are way off on Franks' NFL prospects. He would have to drastically improve his numbers. He's never even had a 300 yard passing game after two years of starting. He still has a ways to go. If he can get two this year and beat a good team with his arm, maybe.
That being said:
Beck or AR15, even if they don't come I'm comfortable with the QB room. We'll need to get a body, but we've got QB1 and QB2 for at least two more years.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 12:51 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
College numbers dont mean shite to the Pro scouts.
Ex: I give you joe Flacco.
At Delaware, Flacco was pessimistic about his chances to play in the NFL, and after his junior year asked his coach for permission to play baseball. The coach predicted that he would be selected in the NFL Draft, surprising Flacco.[19] With a solid showing at the Senior Bowl and NFL Combine, Flacco solidified himself as a top five quarterback in the 2008 NFL Draft.[20] Flacco won the long distance throw competition in ESPN's State Farm College Football All-Star Challenge with a 74-yard throw, beating out Matt Ryan, Colt Brennan, Chad Henne, and John David Booty, later winning the Taco Bell Quarterback Scramble with a time of 15.72 seconds.[21]
Avg college stats. Did well at the combine and was drafted. This was the first off the top of my head but it happens every year where a player noone knew much about, does well in front of the scouts and turns into a pro pick. You only have to impress ONE Coach/GM
Think about it. 32 teams, 64 QBs as just starter and backup, not counting the "project" guys who get picked up. You cant tell me theres not a place on a pro roster for a kid as big and strong as Franks in some capacity. Im not saying he'll have a long pro career, but I believe he will be in a teams camp once he leaves UF.
Ex: I give you joe Flacco.
At Delaware, Flacco was pessimistic about his chances to play in the NFL, and after his junior year asked his coach for permission to play baseball. The coach predicted that he would be selected in the NFL Draft, surprising Flacco.[19] With a solid showing at the Senior Bowl and NFL Combine, Flacco solidified himself as a top five quarterback in the 2008 NFL Draft.[20] Flacco won the long distance throw competition in ESPN's State Farm College Football All-Star Challenge with a 74-yard throw, beating out Matt Ryan, Colt Brennan, Chad Henne, and John David Booty, later winning the Taco Bell Quarterback Scramble with a time of 15.72 seconds.[21]
Avg college stats. Did well at the combine and was drafted. This was the first off the top of my head but it happens every year where a player noone knew much about, does well in front of the scouts and turns into a pro pick. You only have to impress ONE Coach/GM
Think about it. 32 teams, 64 QBs as just starter and backup, not counting the "project" guys who get picked up. You cant tell me theres not a place on a pro roster for a kid as big and strong as Franks in some capacity. Im not saying he'll have a long pro career, but I believe he will be in a teams camp once he leaves UF.
This post was edited on 3/4/19 at 1:08 am
Posted on 3/4/19 at 1:34 am to dbuchanon
It's less about raw stats than it is: He's never lit up a college defense, why on Earth do you guys think he's going to light up an NFL defense?
He's not even as good of a passer as Tebow, who really, let's be honest, did not have the build or processing speed necessary to play at the next level.
I mean, he might be a great scout QB who can mimic tall Quarterbacks, but he is no where near the mark on actual mental processing.
The stats are there:
18 passing touchdowns vs. six teams with losing records.
6 passing touchdowns vs. seven teams with winning records.
Never had a 300 yard game. Never "won" a single game with his arm and there is endless film of him outright missing wide open receivers.
Far, close, intermediate. Not covered, hands high in the air, right in front of him -- even in the Michigan game.
Dude is no where near NFL ready, but he will definitely make a CFL/AAF team very, very happy because I think he will be able to read those defenses.
He's not even as good of a passer as Tebow, who really, let's be honest, did not have the build or processing speed necessary to play at the next level.
I mean, he might be a great scout QB who can mimic tall Quarterbacks, but he is no where near the mark on actual mental processing.
The stats are there:
18 passing touchdowns vs. six teams with losing records.
6 passing touchdowns vs. seven teams with winning records.
Never had a 300 yard game. Never "won" a single game with his arm and there is endless film of him outright missing wide open receivers.
Far, close, intermediate. Not covered, hands high in the air, right in front of him -- even in the Michigan game.
Dude is no where near NFL ready, but he will definitely make a CFL/AAF team very, very happy because I think he will be able to read those defenses.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 7:25 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Watch where Daniel Jones from Duke gets drafted this year.
I’m telling you. None of that matters. And it won’t do the Gators any good. But Franks will be a 1st round draft pick next year if he matches his production from this year.
I’m telling you. None of that matters. And it won’t do the Gators any good. But Franks will be a 1st round draft pick next year if he matches his production from this year.
Posted on 3/4/19 at 10:33 am to atlgator
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But Franks will be a 1st round draft pick next year if he matches his production from this year.
There is nothing from last year that suggests he'll be a top three draft prospect, let alone first round. He would need an outstanding year because there is no person on Earth saying Franks is an elite QB. Not to mention:
Tua
Shea
Herbert
Fromm
Eason
Patterson are all available for the draft, all markedly better Quarterbacks than Franks.
I'd be absolutely floored if he were drafted before any of them.
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