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Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:34 pm to GATORGAR247
Whatever man.
Youre talking about Man defense.
Move
Those
Goalposts
Dan kicks Arandas arse everytime
Youre talking about Man defense.
Move
Those
Goalposts
Dan kicks Arandas arse everytime
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 4:54 pm to dbuchanon
Admittedly man tight can make you susceptible to big runs on the outside unless your corners are really good at beating blocks
I think they sold out on the run totally but they fricking sucked so bad in zone and got no pressure. Problem is no one cares that they stopped the run because they couldn’t get uga off the field.
The lack of adjustment was stunning.
I think they sold out on the run totally but they fricking sucked so bad in zone and got no pressure. Problem is no one cares that they stopped the run because they couldn’t get uga off the field.
The lack of adjustment was stunning.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:00 pm to slayerxing
We played man and got beat too
No pass rush makes it all moot
No pass rush makes it all moot
Posted on 11/12/19 at 5:36 pm to dbuchanon
I didn't move the goal post. My first post was about playing man defense. You jumped in the the orange and blue glasses about Mullen kicks arandas arse. I simply said I don't like zone defense and while we are discussing it I don't like bend don't break defense either.
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:04 pm to dbuchanon
Barely any at all
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:04 pm to slayerxing
And certainly not press man coverage
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:00 pm to GATORGAR247
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I hate soft zone or any zone defense for that matter.. man up and cover your man.. the only way to beat a good qb is play aggressive on the back end. I've always liked the way lsu plays on defense.
Muschamp had the right blueprint to beat Georgia and he did it with way less talent than we have, so this idea that getting better players will suddenly make a gameplan that works is just silly.
They have young, smaller WRs who aren't physical yet, so make them work for every single drive. Make Fromm throw into tight windows.
Guys like Fromm love games like we played because they can just pick and choose, float their balls and pick apart the defense. What's bizarre is Florida fans don't see that teams try to do the exact same thing to Trask and Trask consistently beats them.
The teams that beat us or limited us played press man. It's just how you beat super cerebral, accurate QBs.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 10:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Pretty sure every Florida fan said we had to press their receivers. We just chose not to do the obvious for whatever reason
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:08 pm to Gatorbait2008
I remember every UF fan saying we had to stop their Run. Man isnt the best Defense to do that
I like how ppl throw the defense under the bus for that game when the offense was 2/9 on 3rd down.
Lets just agree the team as a whole played like shite. I recall ppl sayin we were gonna put up 30+ on em. Barely half that... We picked a bad time to play our worst game and it bit us in the arse
I like how ppl throw the defense under the bus for that game when the offense was 2/9 on 3rd down.
Lets just agree the team as a whole played like shite. I recall ppl sayin we were gonna put up 30+ on em. Barely half that... We picked a bad time to play our worst game and it bit us in the arse
This post was edited on 11/12/19 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:46 pm to dbuchanon
You guys know this is the recruiting thread right lol. Lets get back on topic, visitor list is growing for the Free Shoes game. Kinda funny their former commit Jaylan Knighton and current commit Morven Joseph are taking OVs to us for that game.
Posted on 11/12/19 at 11:51 pm to PNWGator
Youre right
My bad
My bad
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:08 am to PNWGator
It’s interesting to me that Morven Joseph will be there. Wasn’t he talking trash to some of our commits and current players when he de-committed?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:31 am to Daddyof4
found this on Reddit...
We still haven't gotten too heavily into OV season, just a few here and there for home games. FSU is shaping up to be the major OV weekend, and we're coming off a huge unofficial visit weekend with the Vanderbilt game.
Things are becoming more clear, so I'm going to start slotting guys into positions based on the numbers/players we are still targeting. Note that the position is not quite as important with this staff, due to their focus on multi-positional flexibility. Therefore, some of the guys that I've moved around could end up slotting back into the original spots depending on which players want into the class.
The focus today will be on how solidified each of these groups are and the players that we need to watch down the line. I'll go by position group again and hit on any changes from my previous mock class, the likelihood that it looks like the final class, and Other possibilities for numbers additions or certain players that we may be looking to still add.
Quarterback (1) - A+
4 star QB Anthony Richardson - UF commit
Changes
None, AR is the guy.
Likelihood
High, AR is the guy. The only way this changes is if Mullen leaves or if we decide to add another QB after ESD.
Other Possibilities
We could end up adding a second QB to this class or through the portal, depending on how things shake out with our 3-headed monster of Franks/Emory/Trask. I also expect us to add another QB as a preferred walk-on.
Runningback (1-2) - B
4 star RB EJ Smith - Uncommitted
Changes
Out goes 3 star Henry Parrish, in comes 4 star EJ Smith
Likelihood
Low and High. If you asked me in twenty minutes, I would have a different name as the RB that I expect to end up with. Even as I'm typing this sentence, I'm feeling more confident in Marks and Knighton than EJ. Basically - I don't feel particularly strong about any of them individually, but I do think we are going to land somebody. Too many guys with interested for us not to make it happen, and the depth chart looks pretty favorable for a guy to get early snaps and the a large bulk of the load in year 2. I'll stick with EJ in this particular mock due to his family ties, and will likely leave it that way until something a little more concrete happens.
Other Possibilities
Jo'Quavious Marks, Jaylan Knighton, and Jalen White all visited for the Vandy game. Jahmyr Gibbs is scheduled for a visit during the FSU game. If I had to pick the guys that I felt most confident in landing, I would put it at one of the 3 top-150 players - EJ, Marks, or Knighton. I don't think we end up taking White in the end. Grabbing two of Marks/EJ/Knighton/Gibbs would automatically boost this to the A range, but I don't expect that to happen.
That's it. That's every RB we are pursuing, and there are no others to pay attention to or even consider until 2021. None.
Wide Receiver (4-6) - C
4 star WR Jaquavion Fraziars - UF commit
4 star WR Leonard Manuel - UF commit
4 star WR Xzavier Henderson - Uncommitted
3 star ATH Fenley Graham - UF commit
Transfer WR Jordan Pouncey - Transfer out of Texas
JUCO/Grad Transfer WR
Changes
Note that I had some placeholders in at this position. I was guessing on a WR flip with Canion and I threw in McCollum to represent my personal distaste for how Billy Gonzalez has approached WR recruiting during his recent time at UF. Those have been replaced. I'm moving Fenley Graham up to WR, which I hinted at in my previous mock and also for reasons that were mentioned on the our/FloridaGators podcast - The DBs we have and are still targeting implies to me that we have Fenley on board as a special teams and gadget-type player. Maybe in the mold of Kadarius Toney. Added a grad transfer spot and moved Leonard Manuel back into the list. Manuel was added back because of his commitment to UF and the appearance that we will try and go until the end with him, not because there were any changes in his status after transferring high schools. Finally, I swapped out Kentron Poitier for Xzavier Henderson. I'm putting him back in with his recent UF visit and the expected OV for the UF/FSU game.
Likelihood
Confident in Fraziars. Confident that Fenley sticks with UF, although maybe not at WR. That's about all that I'm confident in at this point, so you could say that the likelihood of this position is about as low as it gets. I expect multiple changes each time I do another mock.
Other Possibilities
This one could get interesting quickly. As it stands now, I'm going with us adding 3 true freshmen WR's, an ATH in Fenley, and then 2 guys through the transfer portal or JUCO ranks. The coaches will 100% defer to taking more high school guys if the right players want in, so this could change based on the status of Leonard Manuel, if a guy like Marc Britt ends up on offense, or if we are able to get in with some of the other names that we are quietly pursuing. Emphasis on quietly.
There are some big names in the portal that we will likely contact to test the waters, if we haven't already. Every single one of the following names has connections to our program and/or certain staff. Devonta Jason from MS State, Jordan Pouncey from Texas, Brian Hightower from Miami, Jordan Murphy from Tennessee, and Jalen Jordan from Rutgers. A couple more names to watch include Theo Howard out of UCLA and Mustapha Muhammed out of Michigan. This doesn't even get into all of the JUCO names that the staff has been looking at, including Malik Heath, a guy who we've been trying to land the entire time that Mullen has been here. With the sheer number of players with connections, our insanely open depth chart for the next few seasons, the limited number of current WR commits/leans, and two transfers potentially graduating this year in Van and Trevon, I'm leaning towards us adding two with experience right now.
I've added the guys that I think we have the best connections with, but not sure either of them would be able to get immediate eligibility, which would be a definite goal for at least one of the spots. Grad transfer options haven't popped up yet, but that change things as well. One may even slot in for Manuel's spot if he ends up not finishing in the class.
This hasn't even gotten into the names of other potential targets from the high school ranks. Plenty of in-state targets or players that are highly ranked and/or flippable like Kentron Poitier, Malachi Wideman, Bryan Robinson, Marcus Fleming, and Elijah Canion to name a few.
We still haven't gotten too heavily into OV season, just a few here and there for home games. FSU is shaping up to be the major OV weekend, and we're coming off a huge unofficial visit weekend with the Vanderbilt game.
Things are becoming more clear, so I'm going to start slotting guys into positions based on the numbers/players we are still targeting. Note that the position is not quite as important with this staff, due to their focus on multi-positional flexibility. Therefore, some of the guys that I've moved around could end up slotting back into the original spots depending on which players want into the class.
The focus today will be on how solidified each of these groups are and the players that we need to watch down the line. I'll go by position group again and hit on any changes from my previous mock class, the likelihood that it looks like the final class, and Other possibilities for numbers additions or certain players that we may be looking to still add.
Quarterback (1) - A+
4 star QB Anthony Richardson - UF commit
Changes
None, AR is the guy.
Likelihood
High, AR is the guy. The only way this changes is if Mullen leaves or if we decide to add another QB after ESD.
Other Possibilities
We could end up adding a second QB to this class or through the portal, depending on how things shake out with our 3-headed monster of Franks/Emory/Trask. I also expect us to add another QB as a preferred walk-on.
Runningback (1-2) - B
4 star RB EJ Smith - Uncommitted
Changes
Out goes 3 star Henry Parrish, in comes 4 star EJ Smith
Likelihood
Low and High. If you asked me in twenty minutes, I would have a different name as the RB that I expect to end up with. Even as I'm typing this sentence, I'm feeling more confident in Marks and Knighton than EJ. Basically - I don't feel particularly strong about any of them individually, but I do think we are going to land somebody. Too many guys with interested for us not to make it happen, and the depth chart looks pretty favorable for a guy to get early snaps and the a large bulk of the load in year 2. I'll stick with EJ in this particular mock due to his family ties, and will likely leave it that way until something a little more concrete happens.
Other Possibilities
Jo'Quavious Marks, Jaylan Knighton, and Jalen White all visited for the Vandy game. Jahmyr Gibbs is scheduled for a visit during the FSU game. If I had to pick the guys that I felt most confident in landing, I would put it at one of the 3 top-150 players - EJ, Marks, or Knighton. I don't think we end up taking White in the end. Grabbing two of Marks/EJ/Knighton/Gibbs would automatically boost this to the A range, but I don't expect that to happen.
That's it. That's every RB we are pursuing, and there are no others to pay attention to or even consider until 2021. None.
Wide Receiver (4-6) - C
4 star WR Jaquavion Fraziars - UF commit
4 star WR Leonard Manuel - UF commit
4 star WR Xzavier Henderson - Uncommitted
3 star ATH Fenley Graham - UF commit
Transfer WR Jordan Pouncey - Transfer out of Texas
JUCO/Grad Transfer WR
Changes
Note that I had some placeholders in at this position. I was guessing on a WR flip with Canion and I threw in McCollum to represent my personal distaste for how Billy Gonzalez has approached WR recruiting during his recent time at UF. Those have been replaced. I'm moving Fenley Graham up to WR, which I hinted at in my previous mock and also for reasons that were mentioned on the our/FloridaGators podcast - The DBs we have and are still targeting implies to me that we have Fenley on board as a special teams and gadget-type player. Maybe in the mold of Kadarius Toney. Added a grad transfer spot and moved Leonard Manuel back into the list. Manuel was added back because of his commitment to UF and the appearance that we will try and go until the end with him, not because there were any changes in his status after transferring high schools. Finally, I swapped out Kentron Poitier for Xzavier Henderson. I'm putting him back in with his recent UF visit and the expected OV for the UF/FSU game.
Likelihood
Confident in Fraziars. Confident that Fenley sticks with UF, although maybe not at WR. That's about all that I'm confident in at this point, so you could say that the likelihood of this position is about as low as it gets. I expect multiple changes each time I do another mock.
Other Possibilities
This one could get interesting quickly. As it stands now, I'm going with us adding 3 true freshmen WR's, an ATH in Fenley, and then 2 guys through the transfer portal or JUCO ranks. The coaches will 100% defer to taking more high school guys if the right players want in, so this could change based on the status of Leonard Manuel, if a guy like Marc Britt ends up on offense, or if we are able to get in with some of the other names that we are quietly pursuing. Emphasis on quietly.
There are some big names in the portal that we will likely contact to test the waters, if we haven't already. Every single one of the following names has connections to our program and/or certain staff. Devonta Jason from MS State, Jordan Pouncey from Texas, Brian Hightower from Miami, Jordan Murphy from Tennessee, and Jalen Jordan from Rutgers. A couple more names to watch include Theo Howard out of UCLA and Mustapha Muhammed out of Michigan. This doesn't even get into all of the JUCO names that the staff has been looking at, including Malik Heath, a guy who we've been trying to land the entire time that Mullen has been here. With the sheer number of players with connections, our insanely open depth chart for the next few seasons, the limited number of current WR commits/leans, and two transfers potentially graduating this year in Van and Trevon, I'm leaning towards us adding two with experience right now.
I've added the guys that I think we have the best connections with, but not sure either of them would be able to get immediate eligibility, which would be a definite goal for at least one of the spots. Grad transfer options haven't popped up yet, but that change things as well. One may even slot in for Manuel's spot if he ends up not finishing in the class.
This hasn't even gotten into the names of other potential targets from the high school ranks. Plenty of in-state targets or players that are highly ranked and/or flippable like Kentron Poitier, Malachi Wideman, Bryan Robinson, Marcus Fleming, and Elijah Canion to name a few.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:32 am to finchmeister08
Tight End (1-2) - B
3 star TE Jonathan Odom - UF commit
3 star ATH Damarcus Beckwith - Uncommitted
Changes
Added Beckwith to the mix, Odom still on board.
Likelihood
High that we keep Odom and relatively high chance on Beckwith, which may end up taking away from one of the WR spots listed above.
Other Possibilities
Damarcus Beckwith seems like the guy with the best shot of being added, but I have never been overly confident in landing him. If we don't grab him up, we could end up taking an additional WR target with the size to play the pass catching TE role.
Offensive Line (5-6) - B-
4 star OL Issiah Walker - UF commit
3 star OL Jovens Janvier - UF commit
3 star OL Gerald Mincey - UF commit
3 star OL Richie Leonard - UF commit
Mystery OL spot for Dumervil, highly regarded flip, or possible transfer
Changes
Updating the target number. We are still heavily pursuing Marcus Dumervil, although we are way behind at this point with him. He wasn't in my last mock class and I'm not willing to add him to this one as of now. Instead, I'll add his STA teammate Marlon Martinez.
Likelihood
Strong on the 4 commits, fuzzy on the 5th addition and/or transfer. As of right now, I don't feel good about adding any names to this class on the OL. I don't feel particularly strong about any of the remaining HS targets, so leaving this open as a placeholder with the assumption that a transfer fills the spot.
Other Possibilities
We need another top tier OT. Walker is a huge addition, but one is not enough for this class. The problem is that most of the top players or guys that we've targeted heavily are already committed - Josh Braun picked UGA, Jalen Rivers picked Miami, and Javion Cohen chose Auburn and is looking at Alabama. Do we make another move on one of these players? Are we targeting another player like James Robinson at Tennessee, who has been scheduled to visit a few times without ever making it in? Do we shoot for a flip of one of the lower ranked Florida kids like Jonathan Denis or Thomas Shrader? Is there an OL somewhere else in the country that Hev has his eye on?
We need guys in the trenches in the worst way, so don't be surprised when this position works its way up to 6 players with a transfer in. Possibly Cleveland Reed out of Miami or even the oft-mentioned Stewart Reese out of Mississippi State.
Defensive Line (5-7) - A
4 star DT Gervon Dexter - UF commit
4 star DT Timothy Smith - Alabama commit
4 star DT Lamar Goods - UF commit
4 star DE Johnnie Brown - UF commit
4 star DE Antwaun Powell - UF commit
3 star JUCO DE Justin Jackson - Colorado commit
Changes
Dropped Elijah Roberts out and moved Antwaun Powell over from the LB/BUCK section.
Likelihood
Tim Smith is far from a guarantee, since we still have to flip him from Alabama. He’s likely the most important target remaining on the board on defense, possibly the most important on the entire team board if you believe that we have plenty of other WR options. We appear to be in as good of shape as you could ask for with our commits, so just keep an eye on any of them taking visits.
Other possibilities
We could add an additional DL if the right player wants in. We aren’t turning away a guy like Zykeivous Walker. If we don't snag Tim Smith, there are some other options popping up on the board like Princely Umanmielen. Additionally, the staff has also had contact with guys like Branard Wright, Montra Edwards, Jeffrey M'ba, and Clyde Pinder, although I don't really expect to go down those roads unless things fall apart.
Linebackers (2-3) - B+
4 star LB Derek Wingo - UF commit
3 star BUCK Morven Joseph - FSU commit
Changes
Moved Powell inside to DE with Brenton Cox already at BUCK and with UF looking to take another guy who can play OLB/BUCK. Removed Brenton Cox from the mock, just to help with tracking additions rather than guys who are already on the roster.
Likelihood
Low. We want one more BUCK, but I don't feel particularly confident about any of our remaining targets. See the next paragraph.
Other Possibilities
We are aiming high to add one more highly regarded player at this spot. We are after two different TAMU commits, Fadil Diggs and Donell Harris. The staff has also been highly interested in former commit Morven Joseph. The problem is that every single one of these guys breaks one of my rules of thumbs in predicting commits and/or flips. Morven flipped away, and seems like the most likely to come back. But that's still uncommon. This is a situation where I'd move onto the other targets, but Diggs and Harris both committed to TAMU right around the time of their UF visits. Jimbo is also a coach that I will never expect Mullen to flip a recruit away from, but I'm also not sure how much a guy like Harris wants to be there. This is a position where we are already loaded from previous classes and are trying to be picky.
We still talk to other elite options like Phillip Webb, but even calling them long-shots is a long-shot at this point. Romello Height is a Miami commit who has looked around in the past, but not sure if there's any interest on our end or his for that matter.
3 star TE Jonathan Odom - UF commit
3 star ATH Damarcus Beckwith - Uncommitted
Changes
Added Beckwith to the mix, Odom still on board.
Likelihood
High that we keep Odom and relatively high chance on Beckwith, which may end up taking away from one of the WR spots listed above.
Other Possibilities
Damarcus Beckwith seems like the guy with the best shot of being added, but I have never been overly confident in landing him. If we don't grab him up, we could end up taking an additional WR target with the size to play the pass catching TE role.
Offensive Line (5-6) - B-
4 star OL Issiah Walker - UF commit
3 star OL Jovens Janvier - UF commit
3 star OL Gerald Mincey - UF commit
3 star OL Richie Leonard - UF commit
Mystery OL spot for Dumervil, highly regarded flip, or possible transfer
Changes
Updating the target number. We are still heavily pursuing Marcus Dumervil, although we are way behind at this point with him. He wasn't in my last mock class and I'm not willing to add him to this one as of now. Instead, I'll add his STA teammate Marlon Martinez.
Likelihood
Strong on the 4 commits, fuzzy on the 5th addition and/or transfer. As of right now, I don't feel good about adding any names to this class on the OL. I don't feel particularly strong about any of the remaining HS targets, so leaving this open as a placeholder with the assumption that a transfer fills the spot.
Other Possibilities
We need another top tier OT. Walker is a huge addition, but one is not enough for this class. The problem is that most of the top players or guys that we've targeted heavily are already committed - Josh Braun picked UGA, Jalen Rivers picked Miami, and Javion Cohen chose Auburn and is looking at Alabama. Do we make another move on one of these players? Are we targeting another player like James Robinson at Tennessee, who has been scheduled to visit a few times without ever making it in? Do we shoot for a flip of one of the lower ranked Florida kids like Jonathan Denis or Thomas Shrader? Is there an OL somewhere else in the country that Hev has his eye on?
We need guys in the trenches in the worst way, so don't be surprised when this position works its way up to 6 players with a transfer in. Possibly Cleveland Reed out of Miami or even the oft-mentioned Stewart Reese out of Mississippi State.
Defensive Line (5-7) - A
4 star DT Gervon Dexter - UF commit
4 star DT Timothy Smith - Alabama commit
4 star DT Lamar Goods - UF commit
4 star DE Johnnie Brown - UF commit
4 star DE Antwaun Powell - UF commit
3 star JUCO DE Justin Jackson - Colorado commit
Changes
Dropped Elijah Roberts out and moved Antwaun Powell over from the LB/BUCK section.
Likelihood
Tim Smith is far from a guarantee, since we still have to flip him from Alabama. He’s likely the most important target remaining on the board on defense, possibly the most important on the entire team board if you believe that we have plenty of other WR options. We appear to be in as good of shape as you could ask for with our commits, so just keep an eye on any of them taking visits.
Other possibilities
We could add an additional DL if the right player wants in. We aren’t turning away a guy like Zykeivous Walker. If we don't snag Tim Smith, there are some other options popping up on the board like Princely Umanmielen. Additionally, the staff has also had contact with guys like Branard Wright, Montra Edwards, Jeffrey M'ba, and Clyde Pinder, although I don't really expect to go down those roads unless things fall apart.
Linebackers (2-3) - B+
4 star LB Derek Wingo - UF commit
3 star BUCK Morven Joseph - FSU commit
Changes
Moved Powell inside to DE with Brenton Cox already at BUCK and with UF looking to take another guy who can play OLB/BUCK. Removed Brenton Cox from the mock, just to help with tracking additions rather than guys who are already on the roster.
Likelihood
Low. We want one more BUCK, but I don't feel particularly confident about any of our remaining targets. See the next paragraph.
Other Possibilities
We are aiming high to add one more highly regarded player at this spot. We are after two different TAMU commits, Fadil Diggs and Donell Harris. The staff has also been highly interested in former commit Morven Joseph. The problem is that every single one of these guys breaks one of my rules of thumbs in predicting commits and/or flips. Morven flipped away, and seems like the most likely to come back. But that's still uncommon. This is a situation where I'd move onto the other targets, but Diggs and Harris both committed to TAMU right around the time of their UF visits. Jimbo is also a coach that I will never expect Mullen to flip a recruit away from, but I'm also not sure how much a guy like Harris wants to be there. This is a position where we are already loaded from previous classes and are trying to be picky.
We still talk to other elite options like Phillip Webb, but even calling them long-shots is a long-shot at this point. Romello Height is a Miami commit who has looked around in the past, but not sure if there's any interest on our end or his for that matter.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:35 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 9:32 am to finchmeister08
Defensive Back (5-7) - A-
4 star CB Jahari Rogers - UF commit
4 star CB Ethan Pouncey - Uncommitted
4 star CB Avery Helm - UF commit
4 star S Marc Britt - UF commit
3 star S Rashad Torrence - UF commit
3 star S Tre'Vez Johnson - UF commit
Changes
We added Marc Britt, so I've replaced Mordecai McDaniel with him. I'm also adding Ethan Pouncey to this spot since we are still heavily pursuing him after his Texas decommitment.
Likelihood
Fairly high. We appear to be in good shape for all of our commits, although you never know what can happen with Texas needing DBs and Helm/Rogers both from that state. Pouncey is by no means a guarantee, but it appear that we're in a pretty good spot for him.
Other Possibilities
If we end up adding a guy like Avantae Williams as well or instead of Pouncey, there's a chance that Marc Britt ends up getting shifted to WR. That could have a trickle down effect at that position as well. Mordecai McDaniel is another possibility at safety.
Special Teams (1)
P Jeremy Crawshaw - UF commit
Changes
Fenley has been moved up to WR rather than DB. He could easily still slot in here, because I expect him to continue returning kicks and/or punts in college.
Likelihood
Incredibly high. Don't think Crawshaw looks to go anywhere else, and we are set at kicker right now.
Other Possibilities
None as of now.
Final Thoughts
QB, RB, 4 WR, 2 TE, 4 OL, 6 DL, 2 LB, 6 DB, and 1 P. That's a total of 27 commits, including a JUCO DL. 3 flips above from Alabama, Colorado, and FSU. 4 if you include Pouncey flipping from Texas.
I purposefully tried to go relatively conservative for the finish, with an equal amount of high level additions and lower ranked or tier 2 targets. Counters 28 and 29 for this particular class belong to the WR group, with the two projected transfers in. Counter 30 goes to an additional OL, since we are clearly intent on adding to the trenches for this cycle. I do think we also will look at DL for transfer targets and would take one if the right guy became available, but that could also be dependent on space. If we don't grab one (aside from the JUCO addition above) this cycle, I will expect 1-2 transfers in on the DL for the next cycle.
Boosts and drops to rankings can obviously have an effect in any direction, but if Gervon Dexter or Derek Wingo were to get decent bumps, they'd have an exponential effect on this class - far more than if a guy like Rashad Torrence was bumped up 150 spots or if one of our lowly ranked 3-star guys was bumped up 300 spots. A lot of our initially highest ranked players have already received their drops if they were expected to get any or other eligibility/injury issues that would lead to a drop (Leonard Manuel, Marc Britt, Rashad Torrence, Jovens Janvier), and only Antwaun Powell and Johnnie Brown are in a real position to get ratings drops at this point. I think that the current mock class will likely end up with 1-2 more composite points by the end of the cycle if the rankings change as expected from notes on the ratings sites. Although I still have no idea what ESPN will do. With all of that said, the current mock class calculates out to around a 276, and likely would be somewhere in the 277-279 range after adjustments for the All-Star games and with the possibility of swapping in a guy somewhere in that 100-200 national ranking range for one of the 3 star additions or Leonard Manuel.
The big piece missing here from getting this class up into the 280-290 range, which is probably Mullen's ceiling at UF, are a couple more highly ranked additions. One or two more top 100 guys, an additional top 50 guy, something like that. Swapping in Avantae Williams would push this right into that 280+ range. Adding Marcus Dumervil would give a boost as well, although not to the level that a top 60 player like Williams adds. Even if Leonard Manuel is removed from the mock, the final scores could be similar with how these things are calculated and with the remaining targets who would take his place.
Feel free to add questions or thoughts below. Some I can answer now, and some we may get to on the podcast if they bring up items we want to discuss.
4 star CB Jahari Rogers - UF commit
4 star CB Ethan Pouncey - Uncommitted
4 star CB Avery Helm - UF commit
4 star S Marc Britt - UF commit
3 star S Rashad Torrence - UF commit
3 star S Tre'Vez Johnson - UF commit
Changes
We added Marc Britt, so I've replaced Mordecai McDaniel with him. I'm also adding Ethan Pouncey to this spot since we are still heavily pursuing him after his Texas decommitment.
Likelihood
Fairly high. We appear to be in good shape for all of our commits, although you never know what can happen with Texas needing DBs and Helm/Rogers both from that state. Pouncey is by no means a guarantee, but it appear that we're in a pretty good spot for him.
Other Possibilities
If we end up adding a guy like Avantae Williams as well or instead of Pouncey, there's a chance that Marc Britt ends up getting shifted to WR. That could have a trickle down effect at that position as well. Mordecai McDaniel is another possibility at safety.
Special Teams (1)
P Jeremy Crawshaw - UF commit
Changes
Fenley has been moved up to WR rather than DB. He could easily still slot in here, because I expect him to continue returning kicks and/or punts in college.
Likelihood
Incredibly high. Don't think Crawshaw looks to go anywhere else, and we are set at kicker right now.
Other Possibilities
None as of now.
Final Thoughts
QB, RB, 4 WR, 2 TE, 4 OL, 6 DL, 2 LB, 6 DB, and 1 P. That's a total of 27 commits, including a JUCO DL. 3 flips above from Alabama, Colorado, and FSU. 4 if you include Pouncey flipping from Texas.
I purposefully tried to go relatively conservative for the finish, with an equal amount of high level additions and lower ranked or tier 2 targets. Counters 28 and 29 for this particular class belong to the WR group, with the two projected transfers in. Counter 30 goes to an additional OL, since we are clearly intent on adding to the trenches for this cycle. I do think we also will look at DL for transfer targets and would take one if the right guy became available, but that could also be dependent on space. If we don't grab one (aside from the JUCO addition above) this cycle, I will expect 1-2 transfers in on the DL for the next cycle.
Boosts and drops to rankings can obviously have an effect in any direction, but if Gervon Dexter or Derek Wingo were to get decent bumps, they'd have an exponential effect on this class - far more than if a guy like Rashad Torrence was bumped up 150 spots or if one of our lowly ranked 3-star guys was bumped up 300 spots. A lot of our initially highest ranked players have already received their drops if they were expected to get any or other eligibility/injury issues that would lead to a drop (Leonard Manuel, Marc Britt, Rashad Torrence, Jovens Janvier), and only Antwaun Powell and Johnnie Brown are in a real position to get ratings drops at this point. I think that the current mock class will likely end up with 1-2 more composite points by the end of the cycle if the rankings change as expected from notes on the ratings sites. Although I still have no idea what ESPN will do. With all of that said, the current mock class calculates out to around a 276, and likely would be somewhere in the 277-279 range after adjustments for the All-Star games and with the possibility of swapping in a guy somewhere in that 100-200 national ranking range for one of the 3 star additions or Leonard Manuel.
The big piece missing here from getting this class up into the 280-290 range, which is probably Mullen's ceiling at UF, are a couple more highly ranked additions. One or two more top 100 guys, an additional top 50 guy, something like that. Swapping in Avantae Williams would push this right into that 280+ range. Adding Marcus Dumervil would give a boost as well, although not to the level that a top 60 player like Williams adds. Even if Leonard Manuel is removed from the mock, the final scores could be similar with how these things are calculated and with the remaining targets who would take his place.
Feel free to add questions or thoughts below. Some I can answer now, and some we may get to on the podcast if they bring up items we want to discuss.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 2:28 pm to finchmeister08
A lot of good info in here. Regarding RBs Michael Drennan just sched an OV as well.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:08 pm to dbuchanon
The defense was great on first and second.
On third and many times long did we run man? Clear passing downs? No. We ran zone on 3rd and 12s all day and it constantly failed.
On third and many times long did we run man? Clear passing downs? No. We ran zone on 3rd and 12s all day and it constantly failed.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 3:47 pm to Gatorbait2008
Sure
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:39 am to finchmeister08
Malik Heath sched. An OV. Big JUCO WR target committed to MSU right now but staff has been working hard for a flip. Gotta add him and at least one more quality guy for me to be happy with WR class this year.
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