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Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by PNWGator
Seattle
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 11/10/19 at 2:39 pm to
Very bad game, cant believe the amount of missed shots a lot of them were open looks as well.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35584 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 3:56 pm to
I think it’s funny y’all waste ttime watching us play basketball.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 4:30 pm to
A Mike White team missing shots?

GTFO...
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 6:30 pm to
The issue is he refuses to change game plans when they arent falling. I remember and I looked at the time. 10:13 first half we got trapped near the baseline. For 3 seconds and not a single player moved from their position to help the kid out. Not one. Just motionless.

It is great when shots fall. But you have to have a back up plan. Add in we have an insanely athletic team yet refuse to push or dictate a faster pace...even vs a large team we can easily out pace. We try to play half court vs FSU instead of pushing the tempo...and it's why White yearly gets his arse destroyed by a significantly lesser program. Just inexcusable to continue to get beat down yearly by FSU.


Down vote all you want, it is painfully obvious at this point.

Mike White is Will Muschamp 2.0.

Great guy, great recruiter, very strong defensive coach...but his inept offense will never let him be great. He had the one good year just like Champ. But unless he magically figures out how to set up players to succeed on offense, UF is never going to be elite under him.
This post was edited on 11/10/19 at 6:43 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41133 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:09 pm to
So I was OK not winning this game, even though I wanted to win badly. But laying an egg like we did is unacceptable. I’m done with White. I don’t care what the rest of the season holds, if you can’t even be competitive with FSU in any sport at UF then you cannot be the head coach. The best coaches don’t have games like this on the reg.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/10/19 at 9:20 pm to
Plenty of time to turn it around but its year 5 and somehow every single White team has had the same issues. At some point it isnt the players.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6020 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 11:56 am to
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I don’t care what the rest of the season holds


We’ll see. Yesterday absolutely sucked, but it’s a long season. If they win the SEC or get to a Final Four, the game means nothing. If we disappoint, then the FSU record is definitely something that will be used against White.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:03 pm to
I do agree. FSU means nothing if we go deep in the tourney and win the SEC. If that happens, it's because White has tweeked the offense.

Remember the outstanding offense in the P90 tourney? I truly can not understand why that isn't what we run now. With the athletic team he has recruited we could be absolutely deadly with that high tempo.

I see a lot of Gator fans blaming NH. Saying he dictates a slow tempo at PG. It could be him, but I would think it's because he was being told to. Kid is incredibly high IQ in terms of basketball, but he isn't an incredible creator from half court. I would hope White says "run it" at some point and we see if the high tempo works. Using the athletic players we have on this team tempo would give almost every defense major issues.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 12:04 pm
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41133 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

I don’t care what the rest of the season holds


We’ll see. Yesterday absolutely sucked, but it’s a long season. If they win the SEC or get to a Final Four, the game means nothing. If we disappoint, then the FSU record is definitely something that will be used against White.


I am not giving up on the team, and I think we can still have a really good season, but I am just saying that I don't care if we get to a final four, I would be OK letting him go. I am not going to talk shite on him the whole season or anything like that. I just have a personal thing that if you can't beat FSU, you can't be the coach at Florida. Sorry, but that is the minimum standard. Now If FSU was Kentucky or some great power house, that would be different, but they are not.

And that goes for every sport. If you can't beat our main rival, we need to get someone else imo.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:01 pm to
FSU has been deeper in the NCAA tournament than UF has lately.

Their style works in CBB.

With a young team it’s not all that surprising.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2091 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:37 pm to
With the way they played yesterday at home this team may not make the tournament.

No movement at all on offense bad passes all game long no awareness of the shot clock not alot of drives to the basket.

Honestly looked like White saw some players at the park playing pickup and said hey these guys can play let's bus them to the O dome and put them on the court and said go after it

This looked liked a team that had never suited up and played together before completely unacceptable from a team that is supposed to be the best team you have had at a place like Florida I think blacksheer is kicking himself now knowing he could have gone to play for CALIPARI
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:45 pm to
At one point in the game Black literally ran a screen facing the wrong way...his butt made the screen. How does that happen? How can you not know what way to face on a screen
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 5:46 pm to
Okay...

fricking stop.

This team has WAY more talent than last years team and way more depth.

Last years team got STOMPED in Tallahassee, had a 5 game losing streak, and still White pulled it together at the end and they made noise in the SEC and NCAA tournament.

Pump the fricking brakes. We’re not going 40-0. Big deal. Long season.
Posted by AlbinoGator
Member since Oct 2016
2091 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 6:09 pm to
Box

I never said this team was going anything and 0 but honestly watching this team yesterday did it even look like they have all practiced together for a month the answer is a resounding no can this team get better absolutely but after what I witnessed yesterday looks to to me like this team with the schedule they have will struggle to get to 20 wins and that may not be good enough to make the tournament

I really hope they can turn it around and this is a teaching lesson for the team and coaches but I sensearly have my doubts
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:59 pm to
Our programs are in a weird position

Football has the coaching but not the horses

Basketball has the horses but not the coaching.

Maybe we can combine them for one ultra team
Posted by ForeverGator
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13005 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 5:17 pm to
You guys need to chill.

Do you thin Kentucky should fire Cal after losing to Evansville?

It’s one game. This team has to build chemistry on top of its talent. If we are a ho hum team in March with a 6 or worse seed and then lose the first round, then I’ll start to question Mike White.

Chill. Enjoy the season. It sucks to lose to FSU again, but Billy lost to them often too.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 10:46 pm to
He hasn't beaten them yet. Losing this often to the girls school is crazy frustrating.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:05 pm to
2 mins in tonight and we look a lot more active on the offensive side right now. Hopefully that last game sets in motion a quicker tempo from here on out. Really liking the movement off the ball.
Posted by GaryGator
The Swamp
Member since Jun 2017
6353 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:27 pm to
11 mins in we look like shite again
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 8:29 pm to
I was encouraged by some of the offensive movement this game. Still way to many possessions with four guys not moving and the person with the ball not creating. Got to stop that. We had a lot more movement off the ball than vs FSU.

Defense was good but had some clear boneheaded moments at time but that will be fine later.

Hopefully we build on that. I would think White and staff have to notice when we attack earlier we are far more efficient. Hopefully we do it more.
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