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re: Will College Football 2.0 be a farm league, or an NFL rival
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:58 pm to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 7/24/21 at 10:58 pm to 1BamaRTR
College football existed before the NFL and wouid exist without the NFL now. You could argue the NFL is more reliant on college football than college football is on the NFL.
Obviously college football is chasing money because they’ve decided that’s what matters most. I just hope it doesn’t end up like NASCAR, MLB, or the NBA, where bottom lines increase but actual fan interest decreases.
Obviously college football is chasing money because they’ve decided that’s what matters most. I just hope it doesn’t end up like NASCAR, MLB, or the NBA, where bottom lines increase but actual fan interest decreases.
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Posted on 7/24/21 at 11:07 pm to RiverCityTider
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I have a different view.
I think the history and richness and pagentry of college football makes it unique and special. And to millions of people it is the superior game.
I agree. And we’ve flushed all that down the toilet with the transfer portal, the NIL, conference expansion…and expansion…and expansion, followed by conference implosion. The Big 8 with it’s historic clashes between Oklahoma and Nebraska, the Southwest Conference, the crazy WAC shootouts on ESPN into the wee hours of Sunday morning with the final score 56-52. USC, Nebraska, Penn State playing home and homes with Alabama, bowl games where multiple NYD bowls decided the National Championship and almost every bowl was a celebrated event because not every team got to go and .500 wouldn’t get you a bid. Davids like Southern Miss and Appy State and Boise State giving the Goliaths all they wanted.
That’s all gone now, sold to the highest bidder. Alabama has a great team and we win a lot, but at times it feels like a mercenary army and more than a few of them don’t give a damn about the name on the front of the jersey, just the one on the back. You can call me names and downvote me for being a traditionalist and for being nostalgic but those are what made college football what it is, made it colorful and unique and entertaining and decidedly different. We are dangerously close to making this “farm league” as you like to call it, an NFL Lite. Because it’s going to be 50 to 60 teams in 4 mega-conferences, playing the same set of opponents regularly with just a couple of intersectional matchups every year. No more David vs Goliath, no more upsets for the ages, and probably very few interconference rivalry games. Gotta rotate those OOC games under the pod system. And complete with a playoff system to get more teams involved despite every 4 team playoff showing that even the 4th best team didn’t have a shot.
I’ll still watch on Saturdays because I love football but can’t stand the NFL. But a lot of the joy and the connection to my team is lost. It’s not the same. Progress is not always positive.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:32 am to RiverCityTider
It’s already a farm league…
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:29 am to RiverCityTider
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College Football appealed more to the middle class/ upper middle class
The Paul Finebaum show exists - how can you possibly make that statement?
NFL tickets are among the most costly events in the world. They play in stadiums that are modern coliseums and have price tags that hover now around the $1.5-$2.0B mark.
The NFL is the most popular sport in America twice over.
I love college football, but you'd have to be truly dumber than the ground you stand on to think that (1) NFL fans aren't economically in better standing and (2) that it's consumed by far more people than college football fans.
I swear, people need to leave the south sometimes. Whole big world out there.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:31 am to ATLabama
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you'd have to be truly dumber than the ground you stand on to think that (1) NFL fans aren't economically in better standing
Seriously? If you go to an NFL game, the clientele is clearly not intellectuals. The reason the tickets cost more is because there’s more demand for fewer teams.
The fact that the NFL has more fans proves his point that CFB has a more targeted audience. Your statements that the NFL has way more viewers and that NFL fans are higher earners cannot coexist. There aren’t enough high earners to make up the NFL’s audience.
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I swear, people need to leave the south sometimes. Whole big world out there.
I work in management consulting, so I work with people all over. Saying the average NFL fan is in economically better standing than the average CFB fan doesn’t make sense.
If that’s true anywhere, it would probably be in the South where there are a higher percentage of college fans that didn’t go to the school. You really think the average Rams and Chargers fan is a higher earner than the average USC or UCLA fan?
Part of the professional sports appeal is that there’s no barrier to entry for a fan. Professional sports will never reject a fan. Colleges have to reject applicants every year.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:42 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Colleges have to reject applicants every year.
I can't believe I'm typing this, but, when was the last time you went to a game in Tuscaloosa?
I'd venture at least, and I mean a minimum 50% of the fans at games didn't go to the University.
Have you seen the running of the Gumps on A-Day? What's the barrier of entry, putting a knife under someone's nose and seeing if it fogs up?
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/26/21 at 9:52 am to ATLabama
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I can't believe I'm typing this, but, when was the last time you went to a game in Tuscaloosa?
I'd venture at least, and I mean a minimum 50% of the fans at games didn't go to the University.
You’re insulting others for being uncultured and then viewing all of CFB through the scope of the best team, a Southern team and a team in a state without an NFL team. The best team is always going to have more sidewalk/fair weather fans because they have more fans.
It sounds like you may be the one in need more ventures out of the South.
If you can’t see how it’s easier for the Bears to get fans than Northwestern, then I don’t know what to tell you.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:22 am to ATLabama
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Have you seen the running of the Gumps on A-Day? What's the barrier of entry, putting a knife under someone's nose and seeing if it fogs up?
This sort of argument is so common to see from people who parade around as intellectuals like yourself.
You insult everyone saying they are dumber than dirt and need to get out of the South. Then when called out on a take, you offer no constructive perspective and no retorts to my points. Instead you do precisely what you accused others of doing and chose to insult people further.
“But but Finebaum… but but running of the Gumps”
These are things that exclusively apply in the South. I’ll even admit that in a state like Alabama where CFB is way bigger than the NFL, the average CFB fan may be a lower earner than the average NFL fan.
On the whole though, I imagine the average CFB fan is more likely to have attended college and therefore is more likely to be a higher earner.
Posted on 7/26/21 at 10:26 am to TomRollTideRitter
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You really think the average Rams and Chargers fan is a higher earner than the average USC or UCLA fan?
I think the average for each is probably pretty similar.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 3:42 pm to RiverCityTider
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Will College Football 2.0 be a farm league, or an NFL rival
Neither. For the most part it won't exist.
The already tenuous connections between the players and the schools/fans is about to be broken completely. When that happens attendance and viewership - which was already down - will fall off the map. Once that happens, programs will start shutting down left and right - which will dry up the money at the next TV contract and that'll be the end.
It was a good run, but fishing in the fall is the best it is all year so I'll get along just fine.
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