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re: 20 years ago today Dale Earnhardt was killed. NASCAR never recovered.

Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23834 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Dale Earnhardt probably survives that crash if he wears a regular helmet. He still insisted on those chinless helmets and the story I read was that the impact of his chin on the wheel is what did him in.


While I agree Earnhardt should have worn a full face helmet, the crash would have likely killed him on the impact regardless. He died of a basal skull fracture which would have happened regardless of the type of helmet he was wearing. He hit the steering wheel because his left lap belt broke. The belt broke because they were multiple years old, and he had them mounted in a non-standard way (I can't remember all of the details, but he had them mounted with a weird twist in them.)
This post was edited on 2/18/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36285 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:03 pm to
I remember listening to the crash on radio, was on the driveway with my parents. Wild
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1710 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:04 pm to
He would not have survived with a full-face helmet but he would've survived with a HANS. The crew that investigated the crash for NASCAR told them that, with metaphysical certitude.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41081 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:12 pm to
I went to a NASCAR race back in the day. I promised the Lord above that if I ever got out of there alive, I would never go to another one for the rest of my life. I am continuing to live out that dream today. I believe it was the 1977 World 600 in Charlotte. I think I have the year right. I would have been 13.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42023 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:13 pm to
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I went to a NASCAR race back in the day. I promised the Lord above that if I ever got out of there alive, I would never go to another one for the rest of my life. I am continuing to live out that dream today. I believe it was the 1977 World 600 in Charlotte. I think I have the year right. I would have been 13.


Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41081 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:18 pm to
Didn't mean to hurt your feelers buddy. I don't dislike the sport, I was just a little too young at the time.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42023 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:20 pm to
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Didn't mean to hurt your feelers buddy. I don't dislike the sport, I was just a little too young at the time.


It had more to do with your post not being at all on topic for the thread's subject, not my feelings.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12571 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:34 pm to
I’d say the decline in viewership was in part to Jimmie Johnson winning damn near every race and championship over 10 years.

Also, they started pricing people out on campsites and tickets
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41081 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:39 pm to
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It had more to do with your post not being at all on topic for the thread's subject, not my feelings.


Point taken sir!
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 1:57 pm to
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NASCAR basically put on a clinic for how to lose a fanbase from 2005-2015.
I watched NASCAR go from being a sexy exciting sport to "I don't give a shite very quickly". Once I bought an RV to go to races, now I don't even watch on TV
Posted by GulfCoastOutlaw
Fort Walton Beach
Member since Feb 2021
389 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 2:33 pm to
Ernie Irvin is one few drivers to survive a Basilar skull fracture. Irvin was blessed to have been in 2 near death wrecks and survive.

He nearly killed Earnhardt in 1996 at Talladega.

Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
53993 posts
Posted on 2/18/21 at 9:35 pm to
NASCAR shitting on their fanbase in the 2000s is fascinating.

They did everything wrong, literally everything.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4214 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 6:15 am to
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"remember where I was" moment.


I was on Bobby Jones Expressway heading home from my construction job (at the time) when I heard about it on the radio for the first time.

And I am not even a Nascar fan.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
29955 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 11:48 am to
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Who do these executives get these dumbass ideas from?


The same dipshits who want to turn college football into the NFL by expanding the playoffs.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58028 posts
Posted on 2/19/21 at 12:32 pm to
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At the same time, track were raising ticket prices but more detrimentally, hotels were gouging race fans. Race weekends, they jacked their prices up to 200%-300%+ of normal AND required 3 night minimum stays. Thta simply made it WAY to expensive for the average, casual race fan.


sounds like what is now happening in college towns during the CFB season though its usually a 2 night required stay instead of 3.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17133 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:56 am to
I was 11 and this was probably the only athlete I ever cried about when they died
Posted by TopFlightSecurity
Watertown, NY
Member since Dec 2018
1318 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:19 pm to
The changes NASCAR made saved a lot of lives including Jeff Gordon.

The sport screwed up when they took what was basically a popular regional sport with tons of personality and great tracks and made it corporate.

Imagine your favorite local restaurant being bought out and turned into an Applebees.

They are making some good steps now with the road courses and short tracks, sometimes I wish it would all blow up and we could go back to $10 tickets and cool track like Rockingham and drivers pulling their own cars to the track.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4295 posts
Posted on 3/13/21 at 12:09 pm to
Hate the guy died but never cared for NASCAR. I went to a race at Talladega with a couple of friends my senior year of high school and it was rained out. It was fun hanging out in the infield, though. Some crazy people there.

What I really want to see is some high level top fuel drag racing one day. I want to see a car accelerate from 0-300 and cover a quarter mile in four seconds from a standing start. I want to watch that a few times and then leave. I can do without 500 mile races around an oval.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259604 posts
Posted on 3/13/21 at 6:44 pm to
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Ernie Irvin is one few drivers to survive a Basilar skull fracture. Irvin was blessed to have been in 2 near death wrecks and survive.


He's my cousin.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67478 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 5:23 am to
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He hit the steering wheel because his left lap belt broke

This has been argued since the crash. Bill Simpson says it did not break and he was adamite about it.
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