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re: Vanover is a massive waste of an SEC scholarship

Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:06 pm to
Wide open layups don't get missed my SEC calibur 7'3" guys.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
40851 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:27 pm to
I didn’t watch the game but why isn’t a 7’3 guy dunking the ball if he truly has a wide open lay up?
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
4730 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:41 pm to
That's an even better question. It was right there for the taking.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:45 pm to
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Jason Jennings

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Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
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Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:47 pm to
Justin Smith hid the vanover weakness.



Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
4730 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 10:54 pm to
Yup. He's a missing piece that we just couldn't afford to miss.
Posted by BamaPig
Gulf Coast,Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
1314 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 7:18 am to
His vertical jump is only 6"


Posted by Beached Tusky
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:35 am to
He reminds me of Alan Bannister, the 7'4" guy who played at ASU in the late 80s.
Bannister was thicker so harder to push around, but equally un-athletic. When he held a beer can in his hand you literally couldn't see the can.

Comment made on TV last night about Vanover wanting a sports car, but would have to take out the front seat... Bannister had a Camaro where he did something similar.

Smith it turns out was likely the ONE guy we could not lose during this part of the schedule... probably even more-so than Moody.
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32877 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:57 am to
After playing 28 games at Findlay Prep he averaged 8.3 ppg 6.4 rbs and 1.5 blocks.

He still seems weak and timid, not what we need in SEC play. Smith is definitely a better prospect for the league we play in.
Posted by Riggle
Blue Ridge Mountains
Member since Feb 2013
3222 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Smith is definitely a better prospect for the league we play in.


Long term our best rotation will be Jaylin williams at the 5 and Justin Smith at the 4 with Desi, Moses, and Jalen Tate making up our backcourt.

EDIT: I think guys like Conner, JD, Devo, and Vance will be better off the bench.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22692 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:34 pm to
Smith looks like Julius Peppers.

Vanover looks like a Gulag inmate...


For those thinking he's going to get more aggressive.. That's not going to happen. He's obviously just a timid player. That doesn't get out of your blood.

It took Pau Gasol a decade and Kobe riding him like a jockey to get even a shred of tenacity, and Vanover ain't Gasol.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:42 pm to
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I didn’t watch the game but why isn’t a 7’3 guy dunking the ball if he truly has a wide open lay up?
Because his legs can barely get him off the ground. He can't jump quickly. He has to prep and launch every single time.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
7205 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:18 pm to
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Because his legs can barely get him off the ground. He can't jump quickly.


Looks like a baby giraffe
Posted by hawgndodge
Member since Jun 2009
4730 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:14 pm to
Bump.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18038 posts
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:43 pm to
He got his crap pushed in all game
Posted by ArHog
Muss is a coward
Member since Jan 2008
32877 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 8:24 am to
He brings nothing to the game, period

Posted by razorbackfan4life
Northwest Arkansas
Member since Apr 2011
8486 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 9:00 am to
Against certain teams he can be effective.

Against other teams he shouldn't be on the floor. Does more harm than good.

One thing for certain is that he has to make shots if he wants to play.
Posted by The Sultan of Swine
Member since Nov 2010
7717 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 9:10 am to
I don't understand why we keep starting him. This isn't an exaggeration, any of our guards are better post defenders than him.

"But he's a perimeter player and can shoot the 3"

Last 6 games he has 10 total points. 2 for 7 from 3 pt range.

It's just not worth it. He can't move. He can't set a screen. He gets pushed around by literally anyone. With Williams coming back he should not see the floor at all. Hell, Williams is shooting the 3 at essentially the same % as Vanover this season.

It might be tempting to say he should be used sporadically or situationally, but no, he shouldn't see the floor at all. If we end up in a situation like Bama a few years ago where everyone fouls out or gets injured, we are better off running with 4 players on the court.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:01 pm to
Musselman knows he sucks, but keeps starting him. There has to be some kind of strategy involved there, whatever it is. Maybe a diversity thing?
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
57595 posts
Posted on 3/14/21 at 12:03 pm to
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Musselman knows he sucks, but keeps starting him. There has to be some kind of strategy involved there, whatever it is.
He starts him then never plays him again most of the time. It's almost like he dips his toe in the water to see if he's going to be effective or not then just goes from there.
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