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re: The killer of John Major’s Granddaughter gets 18 months sentence.

Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52189 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:19 pm to
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That's like saying, "Seat belts kill people because of this one guy in Florida who died because he got stuck on his seat belt when his car drove off a bridge into water". 


If something like that were to happen, it would be to a Florida man.

This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 12:20 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:21 pm to
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If something like that were to happen, it would be to a Florida man.


Well, who else was I going to use?
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:23 pm to
You brought up anecdotes from your being a corrections officer or whatever, only fair to bring up some counterpoints. Your study is useless bc it doesn't parse by the nature of the crimes. It was probably commissioned by Eric Holder to dig up any evidence possible or racism
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52189 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:24 pm to
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When is the last time a white female died when a no knock warrant was executed in the middle of the night at the wrong house when the guy they were looking for was already arrested and in custody 


No knock warrants should be done away with period.

They're unconstitutional in my opinion.

Not sure why you're making it a racial issue though, how would the cops had even known that the occupants were black?
Posted by scionofadrunk
Williamson County, TN
Member since Mar 2020
1961 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:30 pm to
What an awful story;

and here we have people politicizing it.

God save this country.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:30 pm to
Penal code "reform": more Rayshard Brooks types on the streets. Crime has declined dramatically from its peak ~1990 due to tougher sentencing. With shite like this and cops being to nervous to do their jobs, look for us to descend into Latin American levels of crime
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:36 pm to
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If America were "systematically racist", it'd be damn near impossible for a representative of a 13% minority group to be elected president.

I never knew that Bitch McConnell was an LSU Fan, that is you McConnell isn't it?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52189 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:38 pm to
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I never knew that Bitch McConnell was an LSU Fan, that is you McConnell isn't it?





How is it possible for a "systematically racist" country to elect a minority president?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Penal code "reform": more Rayshard Brooks types on the streets. Crime has declined dramatically from its peak ~1990 due to tougher sentencing. With shite like this and cops being to nervous to do their jobs, look for us to descend into Latin American levels of crime
As long as Cops do their jobs properly, they have no reason to be nervous

If Cops remember that all people they come in contact with have Constitutional Rights, and they need to do their job within the framework of State & The US Constitution, then they'll be OK

I personally know roughly a dozen Cops that work for different jurisdictions here in the Metro Atl Area, and maybe 8 of the 12 have admitted that the job is real difficult to do if you don't operate in grey areas and violate people's Constitutional Rights, part of all Cops "unofficial training" is how to violate people's Constitutional Rights in order to make enough stops & arrests to be deemed effective enough to keep your job and maybe get promoted

Cops get jaded real quick and then......
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52189 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:50 pm to
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As long as Cops do their jobs properly, they have no reason to be nervous 



Bull.

Fricking.

Shite.

Cops are ambushed and attacked constantly, many times in instances where they haven't even confronted the suspect.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30816 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:09 pm to
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You brought up anecdotes from your being a corrections officer or whatever, only fair to bring up some counterpoints. Your study is useless bc it doesn't parse by the nature of the crimes. It was probably commissioned by Eric Holder to dig up any evidence possible or racism


I brought up experiences of my own, not someone else's.

It isn't "my study" - it's the government's, and just because it disagrees with your beliefs doesn't make it invalid.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
Wait

But this isn’t the guy that stabbed her
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22388 posts
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:00 am to
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Your story is that police interactions between Cops and other ethnicities are equally as bad as interactions between police and minorities?

When is the last time a white female died when a no knock warrant was executed in the middle of the night at the wrong house when the guy they were looking for was already arrested and in custody

IMO , if the fugitive was deserving of a no knock warrant (reserved for the most dangerous Perps), his name should've been flagged nationwide so as soon as he was arrested the Louisville Cops would have known they were planning a MIDNIGHT RAID on the wrong address and that the Perp they were hunting was already in custody

But yeah, all houses are on fire, keep on believing that if that's what makes you feel better


Just because someone was killed by a cop it doesn't mean it wasn't justified. The killings that matter here are unjustified killings. If a guy is shooting at the cops for example, then you shouldn't count that against the cops.

Furthermore, to accurately get meaning from the data you need to take into account the likelihood that someone from that race will commit a crime. Especially since you quote white women, who are probably the least likely to commit a crime and that fact in itself, not race, should make their statistics lower. Same for white men who are much less likely to commit a violent crime. For example, a black male is like 3 times more likely to commit a crime. Asians have much lower crime rates etc.

After all that is accounted for, I saw white people were barely more likely to be killed. I'd say it's pretty much even and factors other than race are bigger.

But the kicker is - it doesn't even fricking matter what the stats are. There is no excuse for the unjustified killings of people for any race. It should be a total of all races.

Not sure why you are trying to make a point with a question. You don't know the answer, and yet you think asking it makes a valid point? Even if you did know the answer it would be anecdotal at best anyway.

No knock raids are total bullshite. I've been in a few.

Or are you trying to say white women never get killed by the cops?
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