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re: University of Alabama system to review all building names, remove Confederate Army plaques

Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:27 pm to
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37585 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 10:27 pm to
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Just fvckin insane. I'm reading the McCullough book "Pioneers" right now about the first settlers of Ohio.

It just makes me feel like a giant, doughboy pvssy.





I just read Empire of the Summer Moon. It won a Pulitzer. It's about Texas in the 19th century and the fights with the Comanche Nation. Texas was a violent and dangerous place. It's unreal how dangerous the Old West used to be.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 6/15/20 at 11:09 pm to
It’s amazing to me how any killers ever got caught For every murder, you have to think that 95% went unsolved or they arrested the wrong person. That time period is fascinating to me.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 7:27 am to
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Alabama Athletics @UA_Athletics · 3h

On June 19, 155 years ago, the last group of enslaved people in the U.S. were freed. Today, we recognize and celebrate #Juneteenth



To learn more about the history of #Juneteenth and how it is being celebrated locally, visit diversity.ua.edu/juneteenth/

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 8:45 am to
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On June 19, 155 years ago, the last group of enslaved people in the U.S. were freed


Except that is wrong.

June 19th is when the Emancipation Proclamation reached Texas. A war measure put in place to free slaves only in confederate controlled states.

It was not until Dec 1865 when the 13th Amendment became officially a part of the Constitution that slavery in the country was abolished. Kentucky along with a few other states still had slavery and traded them up to December of 1865. So they were not the last group of slaves in the US.

Posted by moester75
Anne Arundel County, MD
Member since Oct 2018
1544 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 9:59 am to
That is accurate Kentucky, Maryland, and Delaware were allowed by President Lincoln to maintain their forced servitude during the war. The radical republicans were raising utter hell about it in congress but President Lincoln was determined to keep those three states in the Union. Good factual post Warrior.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 10:12 am to
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Except that is wrong...

Why quibble about which date accurately marks the freeing of the last remaining pocket(s) of slavery in the USA? Regardless, the purpose of "Juneteenth" is to celebrate the abolishment of slavery, which should be celebrated. I'm proud of UA for promoting Juneteenth.

I agree UA should correct it. It's easy to do:
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On June 19, 155 years ago, the last group of enslaved people in the C.S.A. were freed. In December, 1865 the 13th Ammendment to the Constitution legally abolished slavery in the U.S.A.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24641 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:05 am to
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The Hill
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Protesters tear down statues of Union general Ulysses S. Grant, national anthem lyricist Francis Scott Key


Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 11:06 am to
I doubt most of those idiots know anything about history
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Why quibble about which date accurately marks the freeing of the last remaining pocket(s) of slavery in the USA?


Because truth should matter.

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Regardless, the purpose of "Juneteenth" is to celebrate the abolishment of slavery, which should be celebrated.


It should be celebrated. Jesus wasn’t born on 25-December either. Want to celebrate the end of slavery on 19-June, there is nothing wrong with that at all.

But a major university putting out a factually incorrect statement like that shouldn’t be deemed acceptable by anyone.

Your fix, however, is perfect.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 3:41 pm to
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Why quibble about which date accurately marks the freeing of the last remaining pocket(s) of slavery in the USA? Regardless, the purpose of "Juneteenth" is to celebrate the abolishment of slavery, which should be celebrated. I'm proud of UA for promoting Juneteenth.

I agree UA should correct it. It's easy to do:


I agree on the support for the holiday just would rather people know facts about of our history like what the Emancipation Proclamation really did. We can not run from our history just learn from it. We can only do that if the truth is told.

Again in regards to the holiday all about supporting it.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/20/20 at 6:25 pm to
@ JustGetItRight & TideWarrior

Agreed.
This post was edited on 6/20/20 at 6:38 pm
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