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Titans playing "manball"...

Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:01 pm
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:01 pm
...and winning. With a fullback, too.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21575 posts
Posted on 1/4/20 at 11:06 pm to
They would be dumb not to play that style with Henry at RB.
Posted by Dr Greg House
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 1:17 am to
Don’t worry. They’ll lose next week.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21575 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 6:38 am to
Congrats to Ben Jones for helping knock off the defending SB champs. He opened up some nice lanes for Henry to run through.

Jones has quietly had a nice career in the pros. 111 total starts (6 in the playoffs) as a 4th round pick.
Posted by swdawg
Member since Sep 2012
705 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 12:29 pm to
That’s how the Patriots won it last year. That’s when I became a Patriots fan, it wasn’t about Brady anymore. Plus Sony being a Dawg had some to do with it also.
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
44621 posts
Posted on 1/5/20 at 7:50 pm to
Patriots built their defense to stop modern passing offenses. Titans built their offense to run the ball downhill with a 230 bowling ball at RB. It was a bad matchup for Patriots D.
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 1:59 pm to
Bump.

Titans are the hottest team in the NFL, and are making a strong case for manball: strong running game and great defense.

Two straight playoff wins without even 100 yards passing.

Maybe Kirby's manball is a tenable philosophy, even in an age of high-octane offense? Thoughts?
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1054 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:31 pm to
I feel like these wide open offenses with scrambling capable QB’s has been the norm in college football for the last few years but it hasn’t equated as much to super bowl winning NFL teams.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21575 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 2:52 pm to
There's nothing wrong with the approach as long as you can run the ball effectively and make enough throws to be successful.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/12/20 at 3:12 pm to
If nick saban, the best coach in the history of cfb, realized his manball offense wasn't workign anymore and needed to change that's all I need to know.

You can't take anythign away from the NFL. Every team has 53 of the best players on the planet. Everyone on every teams' roster is just abotu the best of the best, you can do things with that. You can't play manball and impose your will with tyler simmons and matt landers on the outside, a TE you never throw to, and a QB that refuses to throw over the middle. "man ball" CAN be effective in college, and we've clearly shown that in kirby's tenure because we've been very successful with it, but just look at the recent playoffs. Over the last 4 years (16 teams), only 1 team made it playing what you refer to and that was us in '17. Maybe ND last year, I don't actually know about their offense. Everyone else (the clemson/LSu/bama/OSU/OUs of the world) all run somethign entirely different. I don't think that's a coincidence.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 6:36 pm to
Difference is, Bama still has manball personel.
Posted by dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
21575 posts
Posted on 1/12/20 at 7:23 pm to
Everyone says that UGA needs to "modernize" its offense, but it seems like that was what they were trying to do. They ran significantly more plays from the gun, particularly RPOs, back shoulder fade routes, shallow crosses, fake screen/wheel routes, etc. A lot of concepts you see in most offenses today.

In order to make an offense like this the most effective, it helps to have the right players. No offense to Landers or Simmons, but they aren't downfield threats regardless of the scheme. To me, it seemed like the coaches were compromising by trying to mesh the approach in recent seasons (i.e manball) with the spread offense.
Posted by Leon S Kennedy
Member since Aug 2016
1297 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:48 am to
They won't win next weekend.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 7:52 am to
Titans have beaten this kc team pretty regular....
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
44621 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Titans have beaten this kc team pretty regular....


They've played once since Mahomes took over and that was this season in Nashville when the Titans won by 3 on a blocked FG return in Mahomes's first game back from a dislocated kneecap.

Needless to say, a lot of variables have changed since then. I like this Titans team and they're on an impressive run, but it ends on Sunday against a Chiefs team who has been the best in the NFL over the last 8 weeks or so.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:20 pm to
To be fair to the Titans, you could say almost the same about the Ravens and they managed that game as well. I still think the Chiefs win, but one things for damn sure. If the Titans win, they'll have earned their seat at the table...
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/13/20 at 1:38 pm to
Variables have changed, henry is 100% and Tanneyhill has gotten a ton more reps... Many seem to think Tanneyhill is not good because he has not needed to throw much, he can flat throw when needed.

Titans will shorten the hell out of that game and take away half or more of the games possessions. They will wear down the chiefs d.... Basically the opposite of what the Texans did.
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