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re: ESPN's Top 150 Teams in College Football History

Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:54 am to
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:54 am to
Since all the Bama talk has been covered, I want to point out that 2008 Florida at 67 is one of the list's biggest faults. They are a top 20 team at minimum.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:57 am to
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51. 2011 Alabama: (12-1)
75. 2012 Alabama (13-1)

2012 was better than 2011.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12212 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:03 am to
My top ten would be

1. 04 USC
2. 01 Miami
3. 95 Nebraska
4. 05 Texas
5. 08 Florida
6. 15 Bama
7. 18 Clemson
8. 12 Bama
9. 03 LSU
10. 99 FSU


Any team pre 1990 would get destroyed by average teams of today.
Posted by nb200016
Atlanta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
1282 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:58 pm to
On the field, most of the teams of today would absolutely smash championship teams a couple decades or more old. The evolution of the athlete and the game itself, even 2001 Miami would be sucking wind having to play 80-90 plays on defense against dual threat QBs and RPOs. Not to mention half their secondary would be ejected for targeting within the first quarter of play. I won’t even bother debating a team from 1971. It would be a mismatch of epic proportions.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64887 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 3:49 pm to
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1995 Nebraska ran an offense much like 2011 Georgia Southern.


Incorrect.

1995 Nebraska ran their option plays out of a single back or I-formation. They did not run a Wing-T or Flexbone. Franchione ran an identical offense to those Nebraska teams at Alabama in 2001 and 2002.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22377 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:30 pm to
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7. 18 Clemson


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22377 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:35 pm to
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Doesn't mean it can't still be effective...that's why the service academies and some smaller schools still run it. It allows them to be more competitive with lesser talent against the bigger schools.

The Wing-T is even an older offense, I think dating back to the thirties; many high schools today run some form of it, as well as some colleges. I read where Malzahn's offense at Auburn is a variation of the Wing-T.


Yes, it does mean it's not going to be effective in today's world. That's why nobody really uses it at the highest level.

Malzahn runs more of a quadruple option. But even then it was mostly about catching teams off guard with their hurry up offense and he needs a crazy good QB that could win in many systems. And now it's losing it's effectiveness now that teams have learned how to defend it.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18275 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:23 pm to
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Since all the Bama talk has been covered,


Not yet..



SEC.... Built by Bama
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18301 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:18 pm to
I would take Saban's NC teams against any of those teams. 04 USC escaped a horrible UCLA team and lucked into playing one of the worst NC finalists ever (up there with 01 Nebraska and '12 ND). Miami 01 had one great OL and the rest were no names (two of them Canadians).
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22377 posts
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:35 pm to
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I would take Saban's NC teams against any of those teams. 04 USC escaped a horrible UCLA team and lucked into playing one of the worst NC finalists ever (up there with 01 Nebraska and '12 ND). Miami 01 had one great OL and the rest were no names (two of them Canadians).




That's why these lists are bullshite. They don't want to admit the obvious and they will always spread things out to appease people.

Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2803 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

quote:

1995 Nebraska ran an offense much like 2011 Georgia Southern.
Incorrect. 1995 Nebraska ran their option plays out of a single back or I-formation. They did not run a Wing-T or Flexbone.

Both teams ran triple option offenses, they just did it from different formations; Nebraska ran it from the I-formation and Georgia Southern ran it from a formation similar to the wishbone. But they were both triple option offenses...

quote:

Franchione ran an identical offense to those Nebraska teams at Alabama in 2001 and 2002.

Interesting, I wasn't aware of this...I don't recall Zow or Watts running triple option plays anything like Frazier ran at Nebraska but my memory may be failing me...
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12212 posts
Posted on 9/13/19 at 4:54 pm to
Bama's 09 NC team escaped a pretty bad Tennessee team. All the other NC teams lost a game.

Point being, just about every NC team will struggle to beat somebody.
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