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re: Perfect Game SEC Baseball Recruiting Rankings 2015-2018
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:21 pm to Montgomery Hill
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:21 pm to Montgomery Hill
Many times the players that are picked in the 35th round are high end high school talent that set their price high. Then teams take a flyer late just Incase something happens.
Also recruiting rankings aren’t done using the draft position. I’m not sure you understand your point.
Also recruiting rankings aren’t done using the draft position. I’m not sure you understand your point.
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Since 2015 classes lose the better players to drafts and transfers, what if we just do 2016-2018
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14. Kentucky (26, 6, 11) (no NCAAT)
Kentucky’s recruiting showed last season with its first Super appearance. Most of those guys, while making it to campus, left early. Especially in the bullpen that got them to the Super.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:23 pm to Montgomery Hill
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You don't get the point.
The players that become stars in college baseball are often the undrafted players who developed late.
The rankings will rank them low.
You have to mix being able to talk the stars from playing in the minors and also to find the players who will eventually become draft picks.
Not really - this isn't a list of where kids were drafted. Those are very skewed between 1st round will sign kids and then kids who are very good but not quite 1st/2nd round quality who teams take fliers on in the late rounds hoping to sign if they have slot money.
The rankings clearly do matter, as teams in the Top 10 are the teams that consistently contend for the CWS while teams in the 40-60 range are ones who routinely don't make the NCAAT.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:24 pm to civiltiger07
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Many times the players that are picked in the 35th round are high end high school talent that set their price high. Then teams take a flyer late just Incase something happens.
Also recruiting rankings aren’t done using the draft position. I’m not sure you understand your point.
Exactly - many of those 35th round kids are ranked highly via PG. Outside of the Top 30 kids or so the draft does not generally correlate to PG rankings.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Not surprising with Tennessee uptick there, Vitello is a top 5 recruiter. I think Arkansas 2020 class is ranked #1 right now
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:26 pm to civiltiger07
Who said it did?
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:27 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Not surprising with Tennessee uptick there, Vitello is a top 5 recruiter. I think Arkansas 2020 class is ranked #1 right now
Serrano recruited pretty well too.
They had some hits and some misses, but even in their bad years they generally had a MLB quality early round draft pick on their team.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
College Baseball is about all development.
Recruiting rankings show who was a player coming out of High School.
Not who will be a better player in 3 years.
Recruiting rankings show who was a player coming out of High School.
Not who will be a better player in 3 years.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:29 pm to Montgomery Hill
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College Baseball is about all development.
Recruiting rankings show who was a player coming out of High School.
Not who will be a better player in 3 years.
Don't disagree, but PG and others are pretty good at this point at identifying raw tools that have the potential to be developed if they see you at a PG event. And their rankings are based on that.
The best coaches identify those raw tools in kids and then can develop them.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:29 pm to Montgomery Hill
This is a weird argument.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:34 pm to civiltiger07
75% of the high end talent gets taken from college baseball.
Like I said...
Recruiting rankings aren't always showing the players who will eventually become drafted in the first 5 rounds out of college.
College baseball coaches have to develop the rest into these type of players
Or like I said get the player to pick college baseball over the minor leagues. Out of the top talent only about 25% of those players decide to play college baseball.
The track record with those 25% is hit or miss.
It worked for Nick Lodelo this year for TCU but not all the time.
Like I said...
Recruiting rankings aren't always showing the players who will eventually become drafted in the first 5 rounds out of college.
College baseball coaches have to develop the rest into these type of players
Or like I said get the player to pick college baseball over the minor leagues. Out of the top talent only about 25% of those players decide to play college baseball.
The track record with those 25% is hit or miss.
It worked for Nick Lodelo this year for TCU but not all the time.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
So that #50 and #85 are Gaspard’s last class and Goff’s only class? What a parting gift those were.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Not all the time.
Every baseball player is different.
Truthfully the value in college baseball isn't Recruiting rankings it is producing players drafted in the Top 5-10 rounds.
Then players who are on the fence are more willing to give your program the chance.
Texas for the most part hasn't recruited at a supposed high level and they still have been able to win more times than most.
Every baseball player is different.
Truthfully the value in college baseball isn't Recruiting rankings it is producing players drafted in the Top 5-10 rounds.
Then players who are on the fence are more willing to give your program the chance.
Texas for the most part hasn't recruited at a supposed high level and they still have been able to win more times than most.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:43 pm to Montgomery Hill
What is this hill you’re trying to die on? 
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:46 pm to MetryMauler
Surprised we arent higher too. And, my God, Vandy is cheatin...
Posted on 6/12/19 at 6:51 pm to Slackaveli
Vanderbilt and Corbin have proved their ability to get players drafted.
Corbin didn't start Vandy with a bunch of top recruits.
He can convince a lot of players that he can do a better job than a lot of organizations in baseball.
Corbin didn't start Vandy with a bunch of top recruits.
He can convince a lot of players that he can do a better job than a lot of organizations in baseball.
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
South Carolina should have a very talented upper class group this year. Wtf happened
Posted on 6/12/19 at 7:59 pm to Montgomery Hill
quote:I wouldn't go THAT far. They're very good indicators of what teams got demolished by the draft and which ones didn't. Recruiting rankings BEFORE the draft mean nothing. After the draft is a whole different story.
Baseball Recruiting rankings don't really mean much
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:34 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
Just FYI you're an excellent poster.
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