Are Bryant and Saban the #1 and #2 coaches of all-time?

Yes

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I think you have to put Saban at 1. Everything he has accomplished has come at a time with much more regulation and rules than Bryant had to deal with.

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I'm not sure about this line of reasoning. I know a lot of people think this way but, is it valid?

Many will say that coaches today are better because they have to compete against much better competition. They are better because the players today are bigger and stronger and faster.

On the other hand, aren't all teams and players and sizes and speed relative to the time period they were in? Everything was equal back then, in most cases, as they are today.

For example, Darryl Royal and John McCay and Bo Schembechler, etc... had all the same advantages that Bryant had.

Isn't a Chihuahua in a death match with another Chihuahua just as trying, dangerous, and hard as two Pit Bulls fighting each other?

Wasn't it just as hard for Bryant to beat teams that were evenly matched, even though not as talented as today's teams, as it is for Saban to beat team's today, even though they are better teams?

Two ants fighting one another is just as dangerous as two elephants fighting each other, for the individual combatants.

Saban deals with more regulation than Bryant did but, so do all modern day coaches. Bryant's contemporaries had the same amount of free reign as Bryant himself did.

Doesn't it all equal out?

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1b

recruiting is more difficult for saban than bryant, imo.


but the coolest part of all this is, both coaches had ncaa rules made because of them.

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Bo Schembechler

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Was 2-8 in Rose Bowls and never won a NC. He doesn't belong in the discussion with Royal, McKay, Bryant, Saban, etc.

actually, until the ncaa passed the scholarship limits, bryant would have 100 kids on scholy. he the best. but his best was different than a lot of other powers. he liked the smaller quicker linemen over the big slower ones

and thats why we have limits on schollys