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How this year's top SEC teams compare to most recent SEC national championship teams
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:29 pm
It's not that we all suck this year, but there apparently is no great swinging dick team in the SEC this year.
Subtracting YPP on defense from YPP on offense is the best single stat to measure how good a team is or isn't in my opinion. Typically, anything over 1 is pretty solid, anything over 1.75 is definite national title contender and anything over 2.5 is legendary.
2022 Georgia – 2.05 (7.17 YPP on offense and 4.88 YPP on defense)
2021 Georgia – 2.83
2020 Alabama – 2.77
2019 LSU – 2.78
2017 Alabama - 2.58
...Here's the best we have this year.
Texas A&M – 6.69 on offense and 5.1 on defense (1.59)
Tennessee – 6.83 on offense and 5.39 (1.44)
Oklahoma – 5.5 on offense and 4.16 on defense (1.34)
Ole Miss – 6.51 on offense and 5.32 on defense (1.19)
Texas – 5.76 on offense and 4.67 on defense (1.09)
Alabama – 6.07 on offense and 5.27 on defense (.8)
Georgia – 5.79 on offense and 4.98 on defense (.77)
...Obviously not every team's strength of schedule is the same and all that shite, and obviously there aren't a bunch of great teams in other conferences either and the SEC can still win a national title this year, but take it for what it's worth.
Subtracting YPP on defense from YPP on offense is the best single stat to measure how good a team is or isn't in my opinion. Typically, anything over 1 is pretty solid, anything over 1.75 is definite national title contender and anything over 2.5 is legendary.
2022 Georgia – 2.05 (7.17 YPP on offense and 4.88 YPP on defense)
2021 Georgia – 2.83
2020 Alabama – 2.77
2019 LSU – 2.78
2017 Alabama - 2.58
...Here's the best we have this year.
Texas A&M – 6.69 on offense and 5.1 on defense (1.59)
Tennessee – 6.83 on offense and 5.39 (1.44)
Oklahoma – 5.5 on offense and 4.16 on defense (1.34)
Ole Miss – 6.51 on offense and 5.32 on defense (1.19)
Texas – 5.76 on offense and 4.67 on defense (1.09)
Alabama – 6.07 on offense and 5.27 on defense (.8)
Georgia – 5.79 on offense and 4.98 on defense (.77)
...Obviously not every team's strength of schedule is the same and all that shite, and obviously there aren't a bunch of great teams in other conferences either and the SEC can still win a national title this year, but take it for what it's worth.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:36 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
I will continue to repeat this ad nauseum ....
Congrats on the past. Enjoy the memories and the trophies.
The NEW ERA of College Football is here. There will never again be a couple of teams dominating all others...ie Bama etc. Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Why can't you folks see, or understand this?
Congrats on the past. Enjoy the memories and the trophies.
The NEW ERA of College Football is here. There will never again be a couple of teams dominating all others...ie Bama etc. Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Why can't you folks see, or understand this?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:37 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Welcome to NIL
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:38 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Subtracting YPP on defense from YPP on offense is the best single stat to measure how good a team is or isn't in my opinion
FYI, 2011 Alabama was 3.2
I appreciate your confirmation that 2011 Alabama is the greatest national championship team of all time.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:41 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Again I know we keep saying there is no elite team
So what is OSU then at 3.1?
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anything over 2.5 is legendary.
So what is OSU then at 3.1?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:45 pm to Buckeye06
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So what is OSU then at 3.1?
TBD
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:47 pm to Mosnowman
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The NEW ERA of College Football is here. There will never again be a couple of teams dominating all others...ie Bama etc. Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Why can't you folks see, or understand this?
What does this even really mean? I read it occasionally, and it just seem like some NIL/portal catch-all.
Somebody in the SEC will put it all together again much sooner rather than later and bring back joyless murder ball for a season. Just because it hasn't happened in the last few seasons doesn't mean that it won't happen again.
So many bold NIL/portal hot takes these days smh.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:49 pm to Buckeye06
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So what is OSU then at 3.1?
I'd say they need to pick up the pace with their shitty schedule between now and the playoffs, because that number will start coming down once the playoffs start.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:50 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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What does this even really mean? I read it occasionally, and it just seem like some NIL/portal catch-all.
Somebody in the SEC will put it all together again much sooner rather than later and bring back joyless murder ball for a season. Just because it hasn't happened in the last few seasons doesn't mean that it won't happen again.
So many bold NIL/portal hot takes these days smh
I think what it means is that 5-10 years ago Alabama and Georgia had 2 deeps that were all future NFL players that were ready to play right then, rotated them in, kept them for 3 years. Now, they are still more talented all around, and more talented/seasoned in the first 22, but the depth is much younger and not yet ready. And instead of having 2nd/3rd year NFL caliber guys rotationally on our teams..............
............a lot of those guys who would have been rotational at UGA or Alabama are starting at Missouri or Mississippi State or Ole Miss - both making Bama/UGA slightly worse and making Missouri/State better. That means that there are going to be a whole lot less UGA 38 pt SEC wins, which is going to make Net YPP numbers margins much lower across the board.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 2:53 pm to Mosnowman
quote:[Harbough has entered the chat]
Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 3:55 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Vols?
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 4:21 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
I don't know about other teams, but as far as Alabama goes our defensively philosophy is bend don't break rather than stopping the ball quickly and being a field position battle.
I'm not sure DeBoer remotely cares about field position at all.
It's been hard to get use to for me, but then you look one the scoreboard after the game and it's like well we kept them from scoring so much, even though it felt like we had 40 put up on us.
I mean, if you look at the points given up, we're pretty comparable to the older teams. We are only giving up 18.25 points per game on average.
In 2020, we gave up 19.38 points per game, including giving up 48 and 46 in some games.
2017 was a great defense, giving up only about 11 points per game.
2015 14.73 points per game.
I'm not sure DeBoer remotely cares about field position at all.
It's been hard to get use to for me, but then you look one the scoreboard after the game and it's like well we kept them from scoring so much, even though it felt like we had 40 put up on us.
I mean, if you look at the points given up, we're pretty comparable to the older teams. We are only giving up 18.25 points per game on average.
In 2020, we gave up 19.38 points per game, including giving up 48 and 46 in some games.
2017 was a great defense, giving up only about 11 points per game.
2015 14.73 points per game.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:03 pm to Mosnowman
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I will continue to repeat this ad nauseum ....
Congrats on the past. Enjoy the memories and the trophies.
The NEW ERA of College Football is here. There will never again be a couple of teams dominating all others...ie Bama etc. Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Why can't you folks see, or understand this?
Because it's basically not true. There is no more parity than there has ever been. You talk about Alabama, but I don't think you understand how different Alabama was. That was not normal, that was not common, even in that era. That's why it was a dynasty. And the rest of college football was still having parity.
And I really don't know why Missouri fans are flexing. You probably aren't going to finish the season ranked and yet you're putting yourself as this big poster boy for parity and a new era. You had better seasons 20 years ago, and 10 years ago.
Since NIL started, here are your NC.
Alabama
Georgia
Georgia
Michigan
Ohio St
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think what it means is that 5-10 years ago Alabama and Georgia had 2 deeps that were all future NFL players that were ready to play right then, rotated them in, kept them for 3 years.
Some coach is going to figure out the proper ratio of portal players and high school recruits. On average, a 21 year old former 3 star who's proven he can play in college works better than a freshman 5 star. Why not have both? Right now we've got the #1 ILB recruit from last year on the scout team, and the #1 defensive tackle playing 15 snaps a game. They'll be ready one day though.
Texas is paying Justus Terry some ungodly amount and he's barely played. He'll be ready one day though.
Kiffin seems to be doing it the best, but there are limitations at Ole Miss.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 11/5/25 at 5:50 pm to Mosnowman
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I will continue to repeat this ad nauseum ....
Congrats on the past. Enjoy the memories and the trophies.
The NEW ERA of College Football is here. There will never again be a couple of teams dominating all others...ie Bama etc. Parity is here as a result of NIL and cheating to dominate does mot apply anymore.
Why can't you folks see, or understand this?
I disagree.
It will be the same list of about 10-15 teams winning national titles. There won't be a lot of streaks of titles or anything, but the reality is over half the teams in the playoff each year will be from that list of 10 "elite" teams and simply due to numbers they'll likely win every title.
OSU won last year guys. They're one of the those "elite" teams. The final four included ND, Texas and PSU... all of whom might be considered in the 10-15 most "elite" teams all time in college football.
Georgia and Oregon are definitely amongst the "elite". Possibly Clemson and Tennessee too.
Add to those teams Michigan, Bama, LSU and maybe teams like UF, Miami and FSU... and that's about it. 14 teams.
It's just harder to predict which of those 14 are going to be the ones in contention at the end now. Stories like Indiana and Georgia Tech are nice... but they're not winning a national title come playoff time. They don't have the depth of talent.
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