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I asked ChatGPT to rank the non consensus claims of national titles in football by SEC....
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:06 am
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:06 am
teams from most debatable to least. Here's the results.
Ranking of National Title Claims in College Football
From Most Debatable ? Least Debatable
[i]1. Alabama – 1941
9–2 record,
ranked #20 in AP, claim based on obscure Houlgate system.
Widely seen as the most questionable title claim in college football history.
2. Kentucky – 1950
11–1,
beat AP #1 Oklahoma in Sugar Bowl but retroactively named champion by Sagarin Ratings decades later.
No contemporary major poll recognition.
3. Tennessee – 1967
9–2 record, minor retroactive selectors named them champs but AP picked USC.
Very weak claim, not commonly recognized.
4. Arkansas – 1964
Undefeated 11–0, named champion by several retroactive selectors post-bowl.
AP & Coaches polls awarded Alabama, making this claim debatable but somewhat reasonable.
5. Tennessee – 1950
11–1, retroactively named champion by National Championship Foundation; AP picked Oklahoma pre-bowl.
Debatable but not baseless.
6. Alabama – 1934
10–0, retroactively named champion by some selectors; Minnesota generally preferred by historians.
Reasonable but not consensus.
7. Georgia – 1942
11–1, named champion by several NCAA-recognized selectors post-bowl; AP picked Ohio State pre-bowl.
Debatable but well-supported.
8. Ole Miss – 1960
10–0, named champion by some selectors like FWAA and NCF, but AP & Coaches went to Minnesota.
Partially debatable but claimed with some backing.
I didn't include any others mentioned as they were all chosen by AP with the exception of LSU in 2003. CGPT said there was really little debate among all of these teams and they all had a dominant claim to a national title.
I agree with most of it except I'd put Tennessee's 1967 claim above UK's in debatability. Beating the AP's no. 1 team in the country (a claimed title by OU) in a bowl game should carry some weight and was far more impressive than anything Tennessee did in 1967.
Ranking of National Title Claims in College Football
From Most Debatable ? Least Debatable
[i]1. Alabama – 1941
9–2 record,
ranked #20 in AP, claim based on obscure Houlgate system.
Widely seen as the most questionable title claim in college football history.
2. Kentucky – 1950
11–1,
beat AP #1 Oklahoma in Sugar Bowl but retroactively named champion by Sagarin Ratings decades later.
No contemporary major poll recognition.
3. Tennessee – 1967
9–2 record, minor retroactive selectors named them champs but AP picked USC.
Very weak claim, not commonly recognized.
4. Arkansas – 1964
Undefeated 11–0, named champion by several retroactive selectors post-bowl.
AP & Coaches polls awarded Alabama, making this claim debatable but somewhat reasonable.
5. Tennessee – 1950
11–1, retroactively named champion by National Championship Foundation; AP picked Oklahoma pre-bowl.
Debatable but not baseless.
6. Alabama – 1934
10–0, retroactively named champion by some selectors; Minnesota generally preferred by historians.
Reasonable but not consensus.
7. Georgia – 1942
11–1, named champion by several NCAA-recognized selectors post-bowl; AP picked Ohio State pre-bowl.
Debatable but well-supported.
8. Ole Miss – 1960
10–0, named champion by some selectors like FWAA and NCF, but AP & Coaches went to Minnesota.
Partially debatable but claimed with some backing.
I didn't include any others mentioned as they were all chosen by AP with the exception of LSU in 2003. CGPT said there was really little debate among all of these teams and they all had a dominant claim to a national title.
I agree with most of it except I'd put Tennessee's 1967 claim above UK's in debatability. Beating the AP's no. 1 team in the country (a claimed title by OU) in a bowl game should carry some weight and was far more impressive than anything Tennessee did in 1967.
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:27 am to koreandawg
It’s baseball season dude go back to sleep. We know Georgia is irrelevant in this sport
Posted on 6/15/25 at 4:33 am to Mikeyj3
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It’s baseball season dude go back to sleep. We know Georgia is irrelevant in this sport
You a flat Earther Stevey?
And it's always football season on here.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 4:37 am
Posted on 6/15/25 at 7:44 am to Mikeyj3
Hey dumbass...you're a stupid alter and everyone knows it, and everyone on this board is laughing at you. I'd go away...but that's just me. 
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:21 am to koreandawg
There are some pretty wacky national championship claims from the pre-BCS era, but I do think that Alabama’s 1941 claim is the most dubious. They have enough titles, I don’t know why they try to claim one from a season where they finished #20 in the AP.
I still think 2003 USC and 2017 UCF are the worst claims, though, because they come from the BCS/CFP era. This isn’t 1965, we have national championship games now. You either won the national championship game or you didn’t.
I still think 2003 USC and 2017 UCF are the worst claims, though, because they come from the BCS/CFP era. This isn’t 1965, we have national championship games now. You either won the national championship game or you didn’t.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:29 am to TeddyWestside
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There are some pretty wacky national championship claims from the pre-BCS era, but I do think that Alabama’s 1941 claim is the most dubious. They have enough titles, I don’t know why they try to claim one from a season where they finished #20 in the AP.
I still think 2003 USC and 2017 UCF are the worst claims, though, because they come from the BCS/CFP era. This isn’t 1965, we have national championship games now. You either won the national championship game or you didn’t.
No rational Bama fan should think otherwise. That said, we'll take it.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:34 am to koreandawg
Posted on 6/15/25 at 8:55 am to bigDgator
Ask them about ‘03 for Ole Miss
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:01 am to Darindawg
You’re the dumbass desperate for content posting stupid shot about football in June…. I’m laughing at you and your school because Georgia will never be in the spotlight in Omaha. Maybe get a hobbie for the offseason lol
Posted on 6/15/25 at 9:22 am to koreandawg
USC - 2003
Bama - 2020
Next question
Bama - 2020
Next question
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:09 am to koreandawg
“Asked ChatGPT”. What a dumbass.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 10:42 am to koreandawg
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I asked ChatGPT to rank the non consensus claims of national titles in football by SEC....
It's always disingenuous when SEC boys want to attack BAMA. Not a peep from the rest of the so-called NCs that followed the same beauty contest rules of engagement. 45 years, Notre Dame didn't bother with bowls, but were credited with championships that were just as dubious as anything you'll see in the SEC. 1966 comes to mind. Playing Michigan State to a tie, BAMA going for 3 NCs in a row, finishing undefeated, and destroying Nebraska in the Bowl. Nevertheless, BAMA finishes 3rd behind both gutless teams willing to settle for a tie.
No bitching, no declaring of 3 in a row, even though BAMA certainly earned it on the field. Instead, all we keep hearing is how mythological BAMA's championships are over a hundred years of declaring mythological championships. Now, back to all the regular scheduled hypocrisy.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 11:43 am to bamameister
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It's always disingenuous when SEC boys want to attack BAMA. Not a peep from the rest of the so-called NCs that followed the same beauty contest rules of engagement. 45 years, Notre Dame didn't bother with bowls, but were credited with championships that were just as dubious as anything you'll see in the SEC. 1966 comes to mind. Playing Michigan State to a tie, BAMA going for 3 NCs in a row, finishing undefeated, and destroying Nebraska in the Bowl. Nevertheless, BAMA finishes 3rd behind both gutless teams willing to settle for a tie.
No bitching, no declaring of 3 in a row, even though BAMA certainly earned it on the field. Instead, all we keep hearing is how mythological BAMA's championships are over a hundred years of declaring mythological championships. Now, back to all the regular scheduled hypocrisy.
Strange reaction. No other Bama title was brought up for discussion by the AI, so I don't really get this response. That in itself tends to say all the people saying you claim 7 or 8 titles that you shouldn't are false.
It's always struck me as weird that you claim that title with two losses and most polls had you nowhere near no. 1, but don't claim the one in the year Notre Dame and Michigan St. tied. Where's the logic?
Anyway, this wasn't mean to rile up Bama fans. We've had these discussions on here before. Just wanted to see what the AI said about them and for the most part it settles with the consensus.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 11:44 am to Tigahtildeath
Let me guess. Your Dad was typing his essays on the typewriter with his index fingers and laughing at those dumb kids and their computers. Ammirite?
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“Asked ChatGPT”. What a dumbass.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 11:48 am to koreandawg
Have said it for years - wish Alabama would recognize AP titles. We’d still have more than anyone and the bullshite titles could fade away. 1941 is a black eye, there’s no way to spin it.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 11:49 am to koreandawg
Tennessee’s 1967 claim is very dubious. The other ones we claim are plausible. There’s a few other years that make a lot more sense than 67.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 12:26 pm to GreatPumpkin
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Tennessee’s 1967 claim is very dubious. The other ones we claim are plausible. There’s a few other years that make a lot more sense than 67.
Would make a better argument in 1950 than 1967. You beat the team that beat the team.
However, the Miss. State loss was bad. Not a good team.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 1:25 pm to koreandawg
I mean, LSU has been selected national champions in nine seasons (1908, 1935, 1936, 1958, 1962, 2003, 2007, 2011, and 2019) by NCAA-designated major selectors.
However, they only recognize 58, 03, 07, and 19.
However, they only recognize 58, 03, 07, and 19.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 1:48 pm to Mikeyj3
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I’m laughing at you
Oh no! You're laughing at me? Well, that just crushes my soul.
Hey goofball, even posters of your own fanbase are putting you down and telling you to shut up. Gees dude, pathetic time is over, time to bug out.
Posted on 6/15/25 at 2:06 pm to koreandawg
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1. Alabama – 1941
9–2 record,
ranked #20 in AP, claim based on obscure Houlgate system.
Widely seen as the most questionable title claim in college football history.
Damn, i never knew that. What do Bama fans on here think about it? Thats some Aggie shite if ive ever seen it.
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