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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/28/21 at 8:49 pm to
New target. 3* DT Kaleb Artis from St. Francis Prep (NY).

Someone on staff talks to him at least once a week, I'm assuming Eason mostly.

One of the first offers Eason sent out.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:22 am to
NY?

Where do they find these guys, that they are interested in someone from a prep school in NY? interesting...
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:41 am to
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Where do they find these guys,


They are actually doing their job instead of just recruiting 3 states. Its so great to see.


Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:20 am to
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They are actually doing their job instead of just recruiting 3 states. Its so great to


There is a research paper written by a couple of University of Chicago professors that uses geography as the main hypothesis in analysing program success in football. They used football as a sport because of the amount of athletes you have to recruit every year (larger sample size).

The results were overwhelmingly significant as far as "on the field" success for Universities that recruited within a 250 mile radius of their campus. Notable SEC exceptions were Tennessee (successful) and South Carolina (not successful). There were many other factors that were mentioned in the conclusions section, but the geographic results were so strong that they were considered "noise" as far as statistical factor loading.

Once again, you don't know what the frick you are talking about. Dumbass.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:23 am to
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Once again, you don't know what the frick you are talking about. Dumbass.


So Mississippi and Tennessee are not within 250 miles of Auburn. Thanks geography king.


Also nice link moron. I'm supposed to believe what some random a-hole on the internet once read.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:43 am to
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So Mississippi and Tennessee are not within 250 miles of Auburn. Thanks geography king.


Also nice link moron. I'm supposed to believe what some random a-hole on the internet once read.


My link would be from the University of Florida's Web of Science database, which you wouldn't be able to access. I do have the PDF of the paper if you want it.

What's your email addy, mongo?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33285 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:17 am to
Y’all need to wind this down

My only comment on distance right now is that focusing too far outside the region puts us at a major disadvantage in the Covid era of recruiting restrictions. It’s really, really hard to get kids from CA, NY, etc on campus right now (on their own dime). I’m constantly amazed at how many recruits from even GA have never been to either Auburn or Alabama’s campus before an official visit.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4097 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 11:27 am to
I mean.. I've never stepped foot on any schools campus lol. Its hard to take trips when you're broke . Most kids don't have the money to take trips like that.

If anyone finds any JR film for Artis, post the link. I haven't been able to find it. I'm not even sure they played football last year.. Which would make me even more curious about this offer.
Posted by PrisonMike
Member since Jan 2015
1527 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 12:02 pm to
This is not a study link, but there seems to be some other (? newer) research that suggests geography isn't as important in football recruiting.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33285 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:33 pm to
3* OT Drew Bobo landed an Oregon offer today
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

This is not a study link, but there seems to be some other (? newer) research that suggests geography isn't as important in football recruiting.



This "study" doesn't really make any noteworthy discoveries. Location absolutely matters; how could it not? This guy says that "major D1 schools now have the resources to recruit all over the country". Okay, but who who is more likely to reciprocate interest in Auburn? A 5-star from Georgia, or a 5-star from California? Kids by and large stay within their geographical regions - which means that you have an advantage in prioritizing your own region. That much should be obvious. The other obvious thing is HOW you recruit - there is a big emphasis on forming and utilizing relationships with high school coaches and using the "Auburn network". The staff obviously can't form relationships with every HS in the country, so naturally there is a regional factor that plays here.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
13290 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:56 pm to
Well Alabama has had the most successful program the past 10 years and their starting lineup for the national championship had an awful lot of boys far from home: Cali, PA, TX, FL, LA, etc. Given the lure of playing for a national champion no doubt would make them an exception. Some years ago I ran into a guy from here in Trinidad who was swimming for Auburn. I asked him how the heck he ended up there. He said "My dad said if I wanted to be the best I should be with the best. I could come in second in practice at Auburn and still medal in the olympics"..he was right.

However, since the majority of schools recruit close to home, wouldnt that mean the likelihood of a successful program being a school that recruits.....close to home?

I am glad to see us widen the net, we will see how many actually take up the offer.

Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

My only comment on distance right now is that focusing too far outside the region puts us at a major disadvantage in the Covid era of recruiting restrictions. It’s really, really hard to get kids from CA, NY, etc on campus right now (on their own dime). I’m constantly amazed at how many recruits from even GA have never been to either Auburn or Alabama’s campus before an official visit.




I think what we have to maintain an 'wait and see' approach with this new staff, is we don't know their connections, and where they are getting 'inside' stuff.

Eason is on this guy from NY, so he may have someone up there who knows this kid well...

Time will tell, especially when the rubber meets the road come Early Signing period for this new staff of recruiters.

Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 3:32 pm to
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Well Alabama has had the most successful program the past 10 years and their starting lineup for the national championship had an awful lot of boys far from home: Cali, PA, TX, FL, LA, etc. Given the lure of playing for a national champion no doubt would make them an exception. Some years ago I ran into a guy from here in Trinidad who was swimming for Auburn. I asked him how the heck he ended up there. He said "My dad said if I wanted to be the best I should be with the best. I could come in second in practice at Auburn and still medal in the olympics"..he was right.



Right, but this is a "cart before the horse" type situation. Go look at Saban's first few classes: he took every top kid from Alabama, and the rest were from surrounding states. Louisiana and Miss. kids obviously from his ties at LSU. You might see 1-2 kids from Texas or an offhand recruit like Mark Ingram from Michigan (Saban's ties from his time as MSU's HC was obviously the connection there) but more or less these were classes built around geographical proximity. They were able to go National once they started winning titles, but even with him being a former title winner at LSU, coming off an NFL HC gig, he didn't jump into Alabama and *poof* all of a sudden some kid from California wants to go there. They had to BUILD UP to that point through years of domination.

So really; "National Recruiting" is more of a luxury. Harsin and company might have some ties to the West Coast from Boise, but until we prove to be a top program under his watch, it's going to be tough sledding convincing some star recruit from a completely different region to come here. And really - the entire point about Auburn's location is that "home" is where most of the top talent in the country already falls under. It make entirely perfect sense to prioritize the kids that already KNOW about Auburn and the "culture" of the South.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 5:55 pm to
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3* OT Drew Bobo landed an Oregon offer today


This seems like a legacy fraternity bid/offer. I expect he will eventually sign at AU after a song and dance with other programs.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 8:47 pm to
KN stating that AU is about to add a stellar off-field recruiting assistant. Cooper Petagna seems to be the name most thrown around. He’s been linked to AU since he announced his resignation from Oregon in January.
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33285 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:22 pm to
Wondering why he left Oregon still
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41045 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:42 pm to
A new bagman?
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
4097 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 9:56 pm to
According to KN as of now Auburn still hasn't reached out to Vandy transfer RB Keyon Henry-Brooks. Things can always change, but thats the latest.

I really have no clue what their plan on RB is at this point honestly. As far as I know they haven't contacted a single transfer RB. There's way no they believe in Devan Barrett that much, right?
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4180 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 10:11 pm to
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really have no clue what their plan on RB is at this point honestly. As far as I know they haven't contacted a single transfer RB. There's way no they believe in Devan Barrett that much, right?



I know they can’t contact someone not in the portal yet, but maybe they have some inside intel on who may be looking after spring ball.
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