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Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:22 am
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:22 am
Credit to jadennis on another AU board:
According to the board...
Head coaches from small programs can't win.
Coordinators without experience can't win.
Head coaches that lose games they shouldn't lose can't win.
Head coaches that have a losing record against Saban can't win.
Head coaches that aren't "proven" in the SEC can't win.
The only coach that can win? That would be Coach Big-Name. Whoever that is.
So I thought I'd take a look at the BCS conference schools in the Top 25 right now, and see what category they fall into:
Notre Dame - proven head coach smaller school
Alabama - proven SEC head coach
Florida - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Kansas St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Stanford - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Georgia - coordinator, no head coaching experience
LSU - previous head coach, mediocre
Texas A&M - proven head coach smaller school
S. Carolina - proven SEC head coach
Oklahoma - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Florida St - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Clemson - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Nebraska - coordinator, no head coaching experience
UCLA - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
Michigan - proven head coach smaller school
Northwestern - position coach, no head coaching experience
Louisville - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Texas - proven head coach
So the count of the BCS schools in the current Top 25 BCS standings...
12 - coordinator, no head coaching experience
3 - proven head coach smaller school
2 - proven SEC head coach
1 - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
1 - previous head coach, mediocre
1 - proven head coach
We need to be prepared that there is a good chance we will hire someone similar to who Florida recently hired...who Georgia hired....who Oklahoma hired....who Nebraska hired.....who Michigan hired....who Notre Dame hired. I'm not sure where the idea came from that the TOP programs in the country only hire proven, successful head coaches. That is actually the very, very rare exception.
According to the board...
Head coaches from small programs can't win.
Coordinators without experience can't win.
Head coaches that lose games they shouldn't lose can't win.
Head coaches that have a losing record against Saban can't win.
Head coaches that aren't "proven" in the SEC can't win.
The only coach that can win? That would be Coach Big-Name. Whoever that is.
So I thought I'd take a look at the BCS conference schools in the Top 25 right now, and see what category they fall into:
Notre Dame - proven head coach smaller school
Alabama - proven SEC head coach
Florida - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Kansas St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Stanford - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Georgia - coordinator, no head coaching experience
LSU - previous head coach, mediocre
Texas A&M - proven head coach smaller school
S. Carolina - proven SEC head coach
Oklahoma - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Florida St - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Oregon St - coordinator, no head coaching experience (originally)
Clemson - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Nebraska - coordinator, no head coaching experience
UCLA - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
Michigan - proven head coach smaller school
Northwestern - position coach, no head coaching experience
Louisville - coordinator, no head coaching experience
Texas - proven head coach
So the count of the BCS schools in the current Top 25 BCS standings...
12 - coordinator, no head coaching experience
3 - proven head coach smaller school
2 - proven SEC head coach
1 - previous NFL head coach, mediocre
1 - previous head coach, mediocre
1 - proven head coach
We need to be prepared that there is a good chance we will hire someone similar to who Florida recently hired...who Georgia hired....who Oklahoma hired....who Nebraska hired.....who Michigan hired....who Notre Dame hired. I'm not sure where the idea came from that the TOP programs in the country only hire proven, successful head coaches. That is actually the very, very rare exception.
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Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:26 am to Aubie Spr96
Come on everyone knows Auburn has fallen if they don't hire Petrino.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:30 am to Aubie Spr96
Damn good post
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:32 am to Aubie Spr96
I RA'd for sticky.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:34 am to TheSandman
Nice post. Thanks for passing along and thanks to the person who originally wrote it.
I will admit I'm a little surprised at how many were coordinators w/o HC experience.
I will admit I'm a little surprised at how many were coordinators w/o HC experience.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:36 am to Aubie Spr96
Excellent post. The fact of the matter is we were pissed when Chizik was hired because of his 5-19 record, but if Tuberville had been fired a couple years earlier, and Chizik brought in from Texas, we'd have been fapping all over the place. We don't know what Smart could do if he were offered, and accepted.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:38 am to Aubie Spr96
I was hoping someone would do this type of post. I thought about this the other day. Good find
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:38 am to Aubie Spr96
Yea I read that on AUC. Hes highly thought of over there and I agree with most everything he says.
Thats why Im not going to jump off a cliff if we hire KS.
Thats why Im not going to jump off a cliff if we hire KS.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:40 am to AUtigerNOLA
Any chance a KS hire would quell the bullshite between the two fanbases a little bit? Or is that a pipe dream?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:41 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Another good point. Damn we have some smart fans...offsets the dumb ones like me. 
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:41 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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that a pipe dream
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:41 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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pipe dream
They will say it was all Saban.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:42 am to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Damn we have some smart fans
ITISWYDT
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:44 am to AUtigerNOLA
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They will say it was all Saban.
I don't even mean that. I just mean it would quell, or you would think, all of the conspiracy theorists that the only way AU wins is with cheating. It would be someone that they have liked for years commanding the ship at AU.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:46 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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Any chance a KS hire would quell the bullshite between the two fanbases a little bit? Or is that a pipe dream?
I think it would be hilarious to see the reaction. Like I said in the other thread, why would smart come to Auburn, Bama knows about our impending NCAA sanctions. Their players have been giving testimony to the NCAA.
Or what are they going to say if we steal a recruit? the old boy network is just using smart?
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:47 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
They will vilify him the first chance they get.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:48 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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I don't even mean that. I just mean it would quell, or you would think, all of the conspiracy theorists that the only way AU wins is with cheating. It would be someone that they have liked for years commanding the ship at AU.
They will say Saban told Smart to go to AU to get them in NCAA trouble and to purposely lose games and also to have shady recruiting tactics...to answer your question the conspriaces will always be there
This post was edited on 12/4/12 at 9:50 am
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:49 am to wartiger2004
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They will vilify him the first chance they get.
I think that would depend on the public relationship that Smart and Saban had. If Saban maintained a positive attitude towards him, I think you'd find the bama fans fall into footstep with anything he says rather quickly.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:51 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
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They will vilify him the first chance they get
Some, not all, are already doing it, on just the mere rumors.
Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:56 am to NorthGwinnettTiger
Your talking about the same fan base that when a fat gut in a I hate Auburn shirt wore it to SEC Media Days to impress Saban he was mad cause Saban did not agree.A good percentage of that fan base are delusional as frick.
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