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re: OT: anyone doing any investing in Cryptocurrency?

Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:00 am to
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:00 am to
Yeah and people need to be cautious of what they are putting into these. Shouldn't go in with money you aren't willing to lose. Extremely volatile market.
Posted by Raptor135
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:33 am to
Another wild roller coaster of a morning. I hope some of you guys got in at the dip this morning. Almost everything is down and it's time to BUY! I picked up some more ETH and used that to move into NEO for the start of 2018. Hopefully it pays off.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:34 am to
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Yeah and people need to be cautious of what they are putting into these. Shouldn't go in with money you aren't willing to lose. Extremely volatile market.


This. IMO, these cypotocurrencies are at the tail end of their run. It seems when something like this becomes common conversation that a crital mass of people are aware of, it has already had its run, the institutional and large investors have made their money, and the little guy that jumps in late is left holding the bag. That is what I see here.

Ftr I also do not see cryptocurrency ever being a seriously significant medium of exchange that is generally accepted. I Think it is just a pump and dump investment that has now been pumped and is being dumped by those with significant stakes/institutional investors.

Just my 2 cents that could very well be wrong.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:36 am to
Another issue I see is a diluted and fragmented market at this point.

Think baseball cards circa the early 90s
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 11:40 am to
Wut? Digital currency WILL be the way international, and ecommerce transacts in the future. We are basically the US around 1850 right now. We suspect gold in the Rockies, but haven’t even mapped the area yet. We are just hearing things from trappers. The market is shaky as it identifies itself, but this isn’t a fad. AR, AI, Crypto is where we are heading. Jump on or be left behind.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:14 pm to
We will see. I definitely disagree.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Digital currency WILL be the way international, and ecommerce transacts in the future.

I don't disagree, but the current digital currencies aren't set up to handle that
Posted by WarDamn101
Member since Sep 2012
465 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:46 pm to
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I don't disagree, but the current digital currencies aren't set up to handle that

That's the case right now. Supposedly next year BTC is going to become more accessible and easier to use. I'm not saying Crypto is guaranteed as the future, but it's def possible.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48872 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 12:48 pm to
Here's my thing.

Why would I want to use my dollars to buy these crypto currency (for normal use in the future), when there are enough mediums to transfer actual money?
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Why would I want to use my dollars to buy these crypto currency (for normal use in the future), when there are enough mediums to transfer actual money?


Not only this, vendors are not going to start accepting crypto currency at any meaningful level as long as it is a volatile "currency". The USD is the most widely accepted and desired currency worldwide precisely because it is the most stable.

The VAST majority of bitcoin owners own it for speculatively purposes, which is exactly why it is so volatile. Most owners buy it to try to make a quick buck, not as a legit currency. I highly doubt that ever changes.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 1:03 pm
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8062 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 1:18 pm to
Imagine being the guy who got paid 10,000 bitcoins for $25 in pizza a couple of years back.

And then imagine you forgot about it, until like a week ago when it was $17K/bitcoin.

If only.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:07 pm to
Your mind hasn’t expended yet to what is going on. Blockchain Tech is larger than just money. Amazon for example could offer their prime membership in blockchain. Banks can send money throughout the world without a physical bank at the other end. Records for schools. Any agreement between two people can take place without a third party (notery, contracts, currency). And I haven’t even touched the black market. Infrastructure for food delivery. It is endless.
Posted by AUtigerNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
17107 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:37 pm to
The black market I believe was the intial draw with anonymity when crypto first came on the scene and was looked at as a dark web haven for laundering. But since then, the technology has shown to offer so much more.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 6:39 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:40 pm to
The possibility of improving normal business functions, while at the same time eliminating the human element is scary and interesting at the same time. The people who refuse to embrace this will be out of a job, and have no clue what hit them.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3596 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:48 pm to
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Your mind hasn’t expended yet to what is going on. Blockchain Tech is larger than just money. Amazon for example could offer their prime membership in blockchain. Banks can send money throughout the world without a physical bank at the other end. Records for schools. Any agreement between two people can take place without a third party (notery, contracts, currency). And I haven’t even touched the black market. Infrastructure for food delivery. It is endless.



Sure, but what makes you think that banks are going to adopt some 3rd party cryptocurrency that they have no control over, versus say developing their own blockchains (which they are almost certainly doing)? For example, Bitcoin in particular is almost 10 years old and hilariously outdated already from a tech standpoint, the likelihood that it becomes the "gold standard" of crypto seems absurd as there are already far superior alternatives for every application.

The point is, while this tech is legitimate, by the time its ready to go mainstream (ie: NOT just as some speculative form of gambling like it is now) you really have no guarantee that ANY of these cryptocurrencies will even still be around.

Also, you've got quantum computing looming around which threatens ALL blockchain-based cryptography. Realistically that is ~10+ years out, but if you've got computing tech in development that makes all of these blockchains obsolete, are you going to adopt them tomorrow as your new backbone to banking, contracts, etc?
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42548 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 6:55 pm to
That is one example of many uses for block chain. Ripple for example is targeting the financial market. And I am not disagreeing the technology is missing some steps for mainstream. But like I said earlier, we are just figuring out what we have. This isn’t a fad tho. I only own BTC for trading purposes. I don’t think it will be the gold standard moving forward. It just has the first to market advantage.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48872 posts
Posted on 12/22/17 at 7:53 pm to
All of this fascinates me. How do the other types of crypto come about? Is everything mined? Who is in control of the exchanges?

Too many unknowns for me. And I still don't quite understand your explanation so yes my mind has not expanded.

Something about me purchasing another type of currency that is more volatile than the dollar, in order to use it for the same things as my dollar, doesn't make sense
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 6:47 am to
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It’s going to triple after the holidays. I’m buying at all levels


How’s that working for you? The prices continue to dip. Still crazy high IMHO
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15715 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 7:06 am to
Speculation is different than investing.

This is pure speculation. It is buying and hoping for a higher price and a bigger fool.

It may work, for awhile.

I’ll stay out and watch others make and lose their money.

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 9:50 am to
The more established coins aren’t going anywhere anytime soon.

You could always make profit, take out your initial, and play with house money.
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