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re: JG Tate. Trooper out officially

Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:28 am to
Posted by Prometheus
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:28 am to
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Gus had to clean house. As good as Trooper was at recruiting he was part of the issues with the players being soft and quitting. I've been very impressed with Gus so far.


Agree

I'm not worried.

We may not get top 10 classes every year, but we will still recruit well and get the right guys for Auburn.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24092 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:29 am to
Not really worried because of Trooper being gone. It's more to do with who Gus puts in these coaching positions. I like the DC hire, but the OC hire was underwhelming. I hope we get some recruiters in these other positions.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:29 am to
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Not going to lie, I am too.


I am too. There is something to be said for just assuming that gus is doing it right, however change for change sake isn't always a good thing.

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It's more to do with who Gus puts in these coaching positions. I like the DC hire, but the OC hire was underwhelming. I hope we get some recruiters in these other positions.


well put.

This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:31 am
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:31 am to
More interested in player development that recruiting. Tubs never had these classes but he won more.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31831 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:32 am to
Trooper's a hell of a recruiter. I kind of wished we would have moved him off the field and named him recruiting coordinator or something. I think his strength in recruiting was being all buddy buddy with the guys, and I also think that stripped away accountability and fear from the players and hurt us in the long run. Players should respect and follow the coaches as coaches, not as buddies.

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Tubs never had these classes but he won more.


I agree. We didn't have hardly any big names on defense in '04, but that was the best defense AU has ever fielded.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:36 am
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:32 am to
quote:

More interested in player development that recruiting


well who isn't. But it'd be nice to have a great skill set to start with.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:33 am to
Chiz obviously
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24092 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:35 am to
quote:

More interested in player development that recruiting. Tubs never had these classes but he won more.


I agree to a certain extent, but Tubs did have some pretty good classes.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:35 am to
quote:

Chiz obviously


haha...very true
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31831 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:40 am to
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I agree to a certain extent, but Tubs did have some pretty good classes.


We had mainly 2* and 3* on defense, with a couple 4* thrown in back then. Tubbs developed them.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 8:58 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:46 am to
What have all those great recruits done?

Troop still waiting for Benton to rewrite the record books.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44516 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Gus had to clean house. As good as Trooper was at recruiting he was part of the issues with the players being soft and quitting. I've been very impressed with Gus so far.




It had to be done. What good is a top five class if it is loaded with prima donnas? I do agree that Gus needs to get an experienced top notch recruiter to evaluate talent and get it to campus, but I couldn't begin to tell you who that was. I will tell you this, player development and winning will do a lot of your recruiting for you.......
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21818 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:53 am to
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What have all those great recruits done?

Contributed to our first NC in over 50 years
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53303 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:54 am to
I'm cool with him being out. Somehow along the road, he has become more important to these recruits than the school itself. I want a coaching staff selling Auburn, not as assistant coach.


All that being said, I wish him the best in the future. He caught a lot of shite, a lot being undeserved in my opinion.
Posted by TheSandman
Waffle House
Member since Nov 2010
19517 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:56 am to
Needed to be done.

And if we lose some big-name recruits because they were committed to a wide receivers coach rather than a program, school, and community, I'm not going to lose any sleep at night.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24092 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:56 am to
I just looked. Most of the guys that did anything were three or four stars with an occasional two star in there, according to Rivals.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
24092 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 8:59 am to
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And if we lose some big-name recruits because they were committed to a wide receivers coach rather than a program, school, and community, I'm not going to lose any sleep at night.


I agree that it needed to be done. I also think it's going to be hard to watch Jake Holland running around out there next year too. It's all blind faith with Gus right now.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:00 am to
quote:

And if we lose some big-name recruits because they were committed to a wide receivers coach rather than a program, school, and community, I'm not going to lose any sleep at night.


of course...i think the concern is with who will replace him in that roll. At least that's my concern.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37855 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:10 am to
Ya I just would like having those recruits minus Taylor.

Foster didn't say he for sure wasn't coming to AU without Taylor though so who knows? I mean he has a tattoo
Posted by TheSandman
Waffle House
Member since Nov 2010
19517 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:20 am to
Some people on Das Boonker are saying this wasn't GM's decision, but rather a Rich McGlynn power move.

Not sure what to think about that.
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