re: J.B Grimes

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All this talk a out being able to recruit is dumb.

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actually, it's not.

we had three starters this year that signed somewhere else out of high school.


that's a huge fricking problem.

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When Muschamp was hired the defense was a mess and Malzahn was not believed to be capable of fixing it on his own, hence the push to bring Muschamp in. 

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See this where we disagree. Who didn't think he could fix it? Where did u get that info? Is it so improbable to believe Gus wanted to fix his shitty defense and so went after the best DC available without having to be pushed?

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 By the way, the offense in 2015 was in such good standing that a year later the OL and WR coaches were gone. The OC was about a millisecond away from being gone himself, and he was out the following year

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I'm no arguing it was in a good place. My argument was before the season it was perceived to be good with all the JJ hype. I completely agree changes were encouraged after 2015

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None of this happened over night, the cracks were already showing on offense.

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The 2014 offense is one of the best historically in AU history. What cracks were there? 2015 imploded for a number of reasons but no one saw or predicted it was coming. That's my whole point. You are looking back with benefit of hindsight changing what the feeling was about the program compared to reality at the time. Pre 2015 AU was thought to be a national title contender by not just AU fans but media. That's why I find idea Gus was on thin ice absurd

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I feel like we've strayed far from where would should in evaluating this hire. Is it a lazy hire? Is it too comfortable of a hire? Who TF cares?...

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feels like we stumbled into the q-conspiracy thread over on political

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By sign off, I mean agree to staff moves. It's not absurd to think the head coach had to be ok with guys being added to the staff.

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It’s not absurd to think that the one who writes the checks gets the final say.

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Always the condescending a-hole

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Says the guy who literally just randomly called another a shitty poster over an initial disagreement.

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The 2014 offense is one of the best historically in AU history. What cracks were there?

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We also witnessed one of the most talented offensive rosters at the skill position in our history that year as well. Subtle cracks of game mismanagement and signs that the “genius” wasn’t there started to shine through despite the depth chart.

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I'm no arguing it was in a good place. My argument was before the season it was perceived to be good with all the JJ hype. I completely agree changes were encouraged after 2015

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Preseason hype isn’t a good gauge for determining how strong our program is. I think Muschamp even insinuated while heading out that our program wasn’t as strong as it appeared going in. With that said, I don’t think Gus was on thin ice after the 2014 season, although the program was clearly going backwards. If you didn’t think Gus was on ice, I don’t know why you would let such obvious hyperbole trip you up.

Jay Jacobs has always been known to stand behind his coaches until he wants to make changes and he’s always been aggressive and involved, sometimes unreasonably aggressive. He’s also always wanted the credit for the splash hires as well.
-Tuberville finishes top 15 one year, the next year he is “resigned.”
- Hires 5-19 Chizik
- Gives Chizik a raise after the championship although it was largely assumed that Cam’s ability was what brought us the NC. Did he even win SEC coach of the year?
- Fires Chizik two years later
- Gives Muschamp the largest contract for a coordinator at that time.
- Gives Malzahn an extension after Birmingham Bowl.

Jacobs did what he wanted to do even if against the advice of advisors and counsel. I have no reason to believe that Jay didn’t put a certain emphasis on some nudges to steer his coaches to his preferred direction in some areas.