re: J.B Grimes

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I mean 2015 was the year where no hype was needed to be added to the program.

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I don’t know who you’re trying to fool but Gus absolutely had to get rid of Ellis Johnson after 2014 and the new DC was supposed to be the answer. If we had a defense with a pulse, we wouldn’t have lost 55-44 to Bama. The “boom brothers” hype along with the ridiculous JJ hype along with bringing in the #1 recruit in America (thanks to Muschamp) was what made us a favorite.

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Why would paranoid Gus bring in Grimes who he apparently forced out? He could have some sinister motives.

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I already told you that the move wasn't initiated by Gus, just like the move to push Lashlee out wasn't initiated by Gus. If you haven't figured it out by now, Gus is never worried about his offense, just like he wasn't worried at half-time of the LSU game. Changes needed to be made and the push came from elsewhere, that is why Grimes has no reservation coming back.

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Why would the higher ups, who have full control over our hiring and firing according to you apparently, bring Grimes back after forcing him out?

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When you give the HC a new $7 million a year deal, you have seceded a certain level of control on the program. No one ever said they had the impunity to do whatever they want, but you are blind to believe there wasn't an obvious point in time when results weren't meeting expectation and Malzahn's hand was obviously being forced behind the scenes.

Here's what I love: you all have the most absurd conspiracy theories about how the entire AD needs to be replaced for "meddling", etc, etc, "good ol' boy network", blah, blah. Yet when its clear as day that they are making moves behind the scenes, supposedly I'm trying to convince you all that aliens built the pyramids or something. They HAVE forced his hand, multiple times. When Malzahn was hired, who do you think propped Garner and Craig onto his staff? He needed recruiters and the power-players hooked two former AU players and known recruiters for him. The whole Gus/Craig turmoil was a direct result of Craig never being "Gus' guy" in the first place, so when Craig wanted more control, it was time to go, and who did he bring in? His own guy who he knew he could control. It is clear as day that he has little to no actual reservation in who guys like Muschamp and Steele hire on defense.

There is no chance in hell that Malzahn and his ego brought Muschamp in on his own. Why, so he could compete for the spotlight?

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Thanks insider

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No problem. I await your next AU AD conspiracy theory. What is Tim Jackson up to these days? Ruining AU athletics I suppose.

Gene Chizik went from winning a Championship to fired two years later, and you guys want to question to pace at which things move within Auburn football? When Muschamp was hired, the program was absolutely treading in the wrong direction.

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There is no chance in hell that Malzahn and his ego brought Muschamp in on his own. Why, so he could compete for the spotlight?

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Now you're just projecting. Nobody has once argued he brought Muschamp in on his own. Stop making things up.

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I already told you that the move wasn't initiated by Gus, just like the move to push Lashlee out wasn't initiated by Gus

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Well, you started by just saying JB was forced out. Then changed or added to it that JB was forced out by the higher ups. I was just covering both parts of the argument to match your silly initial question.

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When you give the HC a new $7 million a year deal, you have seceded a certain level of control on the program. No one ever said they had the impunity to do whatever they want, but you are blind to believe there wasn't an obvious point in time when results weren't meeting expectation and Malzahn's hand was obviously being forced behind the scenes.

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So, those same higher ups that forced Gus to fire his offensive coach, and according to you have not trusted him to hire his coaches, are the same ones that are giving him a giant contract so that he now has the ability to hire the coaches that they didn't trust because they gave away their ability to control his coaching hires?

You sure Gus is that paranoid one here?

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Here's what I love: you all have the most absurd conspiracy theories about how the entire AD needs to be replaced for "meddling", etc, etc, "good ol' boy network", blah, blah.

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Stop projecting again.

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They HAVE forced his hand, multiple times. When Malzahn was hired, who do you think propped Garner and Craig onto his staff? He needed recruiters and the power-players hooked two former AU players and known recruiters for him. The whole Gus/Craig turmoil was a direct result of Craig never being "Gus' guy" in the first place, so when Craig wanted more control, it was time to go, and who did he bring in? His own guy who he knew he could control. It is clear as day that he has little to no actual reservation in who guys like Muschamp and Steele hire on defense.

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You are using circumstantial evidence to act like an insider into knowing what happened with JB. That is what you are being called out for. It is just silly. Everyone here knows Gus does not have full authority to make every decision on his own. Nobody has once argued differently. That same coach you are saying is having his hand forced on who to hire, ended up hiring his choice for OC, not the higher ups.

Your whole argument is based purely on speculation. Stop trying to act like it isn't.

Fake insider knighting in here

Pretty much.

At the end of the day, if Grimes can help secure Gouriage (sp?) for NSD, then the hire is probably worth it in the sense that Grimes probably won't be coaching that much longer iyam. He is a guy that knows the system and we all like him as a technical coach, recruiting was our big complaint. This will give Gus time to search out a better long term coach.

I have a hard time believing Gus would have sent Hand out on a recruiting trip to an important prospect a week before he was leaving, if he knew. Getting a coach on board for a big OT OV was important.

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I have no idea who first went after Dameyune & no one on here does either, I do however believe Gus had to sign off on it & he did

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I have no reason to believe that Gus had to sign off on any of his employer’s wishes. That part doesn’t make sense to me.

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What evidence is there that Gus didn't go after Muschamp?

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What evidence is there that Gus went after Muschamp in his own intuition? Gus obviously went after him after JJ wrote him a blank check and provided the direction that Gus was going to go with it.

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I love that it's either Gus homer or hater.

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You will never be called the later, I can promise you that.

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I just know how easily your buttons can be pressed

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Just like how you just know that Gus had to sign off on the hires? Am I right?

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Oh & Chizik was fired for a 3-9 season that was historically bad & had four players arrested off the field for a violent felony. Not the same as a coach in his 2nd season going 8-5 due to a defensive collapse. But you guys go on rewriting history

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Gus Malzahn went from about to be fired to a $7 mill a year extension in a matter of weeks. This just happened.

When Muschamp was hired the defense was a mess and Malzahn was not believed to be capable of fixing it on his own, hence the push to bring Muschamp in. By the way, the offense in 2015 was in such good standing that a year later the OL and WR coaches were gone. The OC was about a millisecond away from being gone himself, and he was out the following year. None of this happened over night, the cracks were already showing on offense.