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re: If Auburn had Peterson and UW had Malzahn,
Posted on 10/19/18 at 3:27 pm to jvilletiger25
Posted on 10/19/18 at 3:27 pm to jvilletiger25
Because it’s the Groundhog Day every year with Gus.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:19 am to Fear The Thumb
So lets view this situation now that the season is over and we know how they ended
Washington Season
Pac12 Champs (10-4)
Games against Ranked Teams
Auburn(9) - L
BYU(20) - W
Oregon(17) - L
Washington St(8) - W
Ohio State(6) - L
Quality Wins
BYU
Washington ST?
Bad Loses
Cal (7-6)
Auburn Season
Games against Ranked Teams
Washington(6) - W
LSU(6) - L
Texas AM (20) - W
Georgia (5)- L
Alabama(1) - L
Quality Wins
Texas AM
Washington
Bad Loses
Tennessee - (5-7)
Strength of schedule
Auburn - 6
Washington - 18
A lot of meh in this thread. Very little difference between these two seasons. In really, Petterson accomplished more by winning his conference but lets face it, that was not big deal. He lost every big game he played in except Washington St.
Gus did not win anything for the trophy case but played a much harder schedule and all the loses other than the Vols was against a ranked team. Plus won head to head
Washington Season
Pac12 Champs (10-4)
Games against Ranked Teams
Auburn(9) - L
BYU(20) - W
Oregon(17) - L
Washington St(8) - W
Ohio State(6) - L
Quality Wins
BYU
Washington ST?
Bad Loses
Cal (7-6)
Auburn Season
Games against Ranked Teams
Washington(6) - W
LSU(6) - L
Texas AM (20) - W
Georgia (5)- L
Alabama(1) - L
Quality Wins
Texas AM
Washington
Bad Loses
Tennessee - (5-7)
Strength of schedule
Auburn - 6
Washington - 18
A lot of meh in this thread. Very little difference between these two seasons. In really, Petterson accomplished more by winning his conference but lets face it, that was not big deal. He lost every big game he played in except Washington St.
Gus did not win anything for the trophy case but played a much harder schedule and all the loses other than the Vols was against a ranked team. Plus won head to head
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:25 am to LanierSpots
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Gus did not win anything for the trophy case but played a much harder schedule
He also coaches at Auburn which has more resources and better recruiting access/pipelines, so the tougher schedule is about a wash with the clear advantages AU has over UW
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:56 am to LanierSpots
Yep
So what does those 2 turnovers for Washington (1 fumble - 1 interception) mean in a 5 point game?
eta: Interesting 5 points total in their other two regular season losses and also 5 points in their bowl game. Seems like (on surface) far fewer what if's for Peterson than Gus. (just at a quick glance).
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A lot of meh. . .
So what does those 2 turnovers for Washington (1 fumble - 1 interception) mean in a 5 point game?
eta: Interesting 5 points total in their other two regular season losses and also 5 points in their bowl game. Seems like (on surface) far fewer what if's for Peterson than Gus. (just at a quick glance).
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 11:02 am
Posted on 1/2/19 at 10:57 am to LanierSpots
Yes, let's review:
Win conference championship, 10 wins, rose bowl game
vs
5th in division, 8 wins, losses to mediocre lsu, msu, UT, toilet bowl game
Win conference championship, 10 wins, rose bowl game
vs
5th in division, 8 wins, losses to mediocre lsu, msu, UT, toilet bowl game
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:00 am to awestruck
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So what does those 2 turnovers for Washington (1 fumble - 1 interception) mean in a 5 point game
Not a road we should go down in this type of discussion. We would then have to bring up our games agains LSU, Vols and Miss St. All were winnable if the players didnt make shitty mistakes.
This is about what happened. Not what could have happened
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:02 am to GenesChin
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He also coaches at Auburn which has more resources and better recruiting access/pipelines, so the tougher schedule is about a wash with the clear advantages AU has over UW
USC and Oregon doenst seem to have any problems recruiting and building big programs out west. Why should Washington if Petterson is that kind of coach?
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:07 am to LanierSpots
You don't pay much attention to recruiting rankings. Oregon doesn't recruit highly. Sure, they get a few top players, but not many
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:31 am to jvilletiger25
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You don't pay much attention to recruiting rankings. Oregon doesn't recruit highly.
2019 - 6th as of now
2018 - 13th
2017 - 18th
Every year they out recruited Washington. Even with coaching changes
Why dont you just let people discuss this that are somewhat open minded. We all know where you stand on this and that you are not going to be on any kind of even playing field
Posted on 1/2/19 at 11:45 am to LanierSpots
Washington was a joke this year. Gus would win the league and Rose Bowl in that league. Certainly would do better than Helton at USC, who people on this board tried to tell me last year was a better coach
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:04 pm to blzr
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Washington was a joke this year. Gus would win the league and Rose Bowl in that league. Certainly would do better than Helton at USC, who people on this board tried to tell me last year was a better coach
Im just looking at the two coaches performance this year and trying to figure out why Petterson would be such a great improvement as so many here tried to say. The ones who were being real. He does well but honestly, he has not really achieved anything great at Washington and has pretty much lost most of his big games since he has been there.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:06 pm to LanierSpots
According to your sig, he doesn’t recruit the inner cities enough.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:08 pm to LanierSpots
I bet Peterson would not have lost to Tennessee, Miss St. and LSU.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:09 pm to Fear The Thumb
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I bet Peterson would not have lost to Tennessee
He lost to Cal 12-10
Tennessee is probably better than Cal
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:10 pm to jangalang
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According to your sig, he doesn’t recruit the inner cities enough.
Finally a proper response.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:21 pm to LanierSpots
We are gonna lose Jamel, Dontavious, and Deshaun from our intimidating name team :(
I’m changing my tune on Pederson though.
I’m changing my tune on Pederson though.
This post was edited on 1/2/19 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:21 pm to Fear The Thumb
Nope. But Lanier and the GusShortBus suckers will defend to the end.
As far as my OP: I said GusShortBus needed to take the next step in 2018. Instead, he fell back into his mediocre 8-5 self. But at least he had the team ready for the bowl game this time, so I will give him credit for that improvement.
As far as my OP: I said GusShortBus needed to take the next step in 2018. Instead, he fell back into his mediocre 8-5 self. But at least he had the team ready for the bowl game this time, so I will give him credit for that improvement.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 12:25 pm to GenesChin
I'm going to go ahead and say it. UW is an academic school and one of the tougher schools to qualify for in the state of WA. Chris is doing a great job with the resources that he has. I would take Chris over Gus any day. Guy has proved he has what it takes to win.
Posted on 1/2/19 at 1:37 pm to LanierSpots
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USC and Oregon doenst seem to have any problems recruiting and building big programs out west. Why should Washington if Petterson is that kind of coach?
You are comparing Washington to two of the most funded athletic programs in the country. I could be wrong on this but I think UW had like one 10 win season since 2000 before Peterson and he already has like 3 in five years.
My problem with Gus is that he wastes years that could be good we should have made the playoffs last year but choked against LSU and Georgia. We never have a complete team where offense and defense is good except last year which was probably our most balanced year.
You can blame our struggles on a QB who doesn’t fit our system and that’s fine. However that still falls on Gus imo. It’s not like Stidham was some walk on forced to play by injuries. We wanted him. I could probably forgive it if he hadn’t failed with Sean White and Jeremy Johnson the years before. I know he did well with Nick but we can’t sit here and pretend he is a good evaluator because he hit on one dude.
I don’t hate Gus and I would love to keep him because I do think he is a good HC in terms of getting staff, staying clean, etc however I’m just not sure he is going to be able to stay out of his own way in regards to the offense. The formula for success is literally there but it’s like he wants to prove he isn’t a one trick pony. That’s what he is, however that one trick is really good
Posted on 1/2/19 at 3:17 pm to UAH_Tiger2
Any sane person who knows anything about football would take Peterson over GusShortBus in a heartbeat. But it looks like we're stuck with him, so I hope he gets things figured out. And finds a coach that can recruit at the Oline position
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