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Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:00 am to GenesChin
National Championship as an OC
1 Sun Belt Conference Championship
1 National Championship appearance as HC
1 SEC Championship
2 SEC West Championships
4 top 10 recruiting classes (#5 ranked 12)
I have been critical of Malzahn, but he's been pretty successful in his short head coaching career, and also believe he's still learning quite a bit.
1 Sun Belt Conference Championship
1 National Championship appearance as HC
1 SEC Championship
2 SEC West Championships
4 top 10 recruiting classes (#5 ranked 12)
I have been critical of Malzahn, but he's been pretty successful in his short head coaching career, and also believe he's still learning quite a bit.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:01 am to GenesChin
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Petersen has almost identical results as Gus at Washington, a program with significantly less resources, poorer recruiting access and prestige as Auburn
While this is true, you also have to factor in UW has played a much easier schedule during that same time period. Since Gus has been at Auburn, the average SOS rank is 7.6. Whereas since Petersen has been at UW the average SOS is 61. I know SOS is not an exact stat, but that is a huge disparity that even with you factor in a significant margin or error, still leaves a large gap.
FWIW I think they are pretty darn comparable and when you factor in their regional ties, it gets even more dicey.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:04 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:04 am to bawbarn
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National Championship as an OC
1 Sun Belt Conference Championship
1 National Championship appearance as HC
1 SEC Championship
2 SEC West Championships
4 top 10 recruiting classes (#5 ranked 12)
I have been critical of Malzahn, but he's been pretty successful in his short head coaching career, and also believe he's still learning quite a bit.
The only thing some of these guys remember and want to talk about is the mistakes. We lost to LSU after leading by 20. bla bla. Though it hurt as much as anything, that loss did not mean a thing. The team got motivated and got on a run.
Personally his biggest mistakes for me are the FSU game and the loss to UGA in 2016
even though we had lots of injuries.
Other than that, the rest of the things are normal
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:05 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:07 am to LanierSpots
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i doubt that. Its been said before. You will just move that mark again just like everyone has in the past
Hasn't been said by me. Any coach that wins 10+ regularly in a P5 conference is a successful coach, no matter the program.
That said, sometimes a coach plateaus and new, fresh energy is needed. Successful coaches like Mark Richt / Les Miles are great examples
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In the same state / recruiting area
Elite Recruits by State
This isn't as big a deal when 7 of the top 20 recruiting states in the country are SEC country, including #7 AL
The Pac12 only has 2 states in the top 20 and Washington's home state isn't in there.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:08 am to LanierSpots
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Personally his biggest mistakes for me are the FSU game and the loss to UGA in 2016
I agree. The most mind-boggling game is 2016 Auburn vs Clemson. He out-smarted himself thinking Auburn wasn't going to compete with Clemson unless he pulled something out of his hat.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:10 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:13 am to AA7
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While this is true, you also have to factor in UW has played a much easier schedule during that same time period.
While definitely fair, I'd just point out that UW is an inferior program to AU. As in, I would expect Gus to win more games at a program like AU instead of Arkansas, even though Arkansas probably has an easier SOS
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:15 am to GenesChin
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Hasn't been said by me. Any coach that wins 10+ regularly in a P5 conference is a successful coach, no matter the program.
There has only been one of those in the SEC west and they are pretty good
Its easy to win 10 games with a easy schedule
Or recent loses
2017 Georgia - Ranked #2 AP end of year
2017 LSU - bad loss
2017 UCF - Undefeated team - We still should have won
2017 Clemson - Playoff team
2016 Bama - National Champions runner up
2016 Clemson - Winner National Champions
2016 Texas AM - I dunno
2016 UGA - Injuries but sucked
2016 OU - Sugar Bowl - Tons of key players out / Baker Mayfield show
Its not like we are losing to scrubs every week.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:18 am to bawbarn
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Personally his biggest mistakes for me are the FSU game
It wasn't his best game, but I don't think it deserves to be the biggest coaching blunder.
We lost that game because of weird, fluke type sh*t in my mind
-Cody Parkey missing FGs and no touchbacks
-ST player pulls hammy on KO, FSU KR finds lane and gets TD
-Gene Chizik couldn't recruit better LBs than Jake Holland
-Jeremy Pruitt making some really great halftime adjustments for D
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The most mind-boggling game is 2016 Auburn vs Clemson.
Not as mind boggling as the 2011 Clemson game.
At least the 2016 game you could point to our OL struggles forcing wacky play calling.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:22 am to GenesChin
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It wasn't his best game, but I don't think it deserves to be the biggest coaching blunder.
It is for me because of the importance of that game. Once again, though I hated the loss to Clemson, in the end it did not matter
The FSU game was for the National Championship. He had a big lead and changed his playcalling. Then got the lead with a minute left and it slipped away. I can only blame that on him. Its my burden and I will always carry it that way
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:24 am to LanierSpots
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There has only been one of those in the SEC west and they are pretty good
I'll further define what I mean. If a coach is winning 9+ Regular season games and hits 10+W maybe 2 of every 3-4 seasons, I would label it a success.
In the past decade, guys like Bobby the Motorcycle, Les Miles and Tubz all fit that description and I thought they all were successful. I'll give honorable mention to Dan Mullen because that trash State program should get like a -2L handicap
If Gus gets to 10+ W this season, he would also fit into that category
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:24 am to LanierSpots
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Its not like we are losing to scrubs
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2017 LSU, 2017 UCF (non P5 school, don't care that they were undefeated), 2016 Texas AM, 2016 UGA
There's 4 in the last 2 years.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:27 am to LanierSpots
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He had a big lead and changed his playcalling. Then got the lead with a minute left and it slipped away.
I just view it differently. It definitely isn't one of his better games, but I don't fault any of his moves there
I think FSU's D made some great adjustments and more importantly, Timmy Jernigan put his team on his back with his destruction along the DL. In the 2H, he was tearing our interior OL to shreds
It also isn't Gus' fault that Ellis Johnson and Jake Holland couldn't stop that final drive by FSU. Not sure what Gus could have done there
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:28 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:29 am to LanierSpots
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Personally his biggest mistakes for me are the FSU game and the loss to UGA in 2016
even though we had lots of injuries.
I agree with 2016 UGA, the FSU loss hurt, but we were huge underdogs in that game. In the FSU came we lost because of a missed FG, a kickoff return, PI in the endzone, but the biggest reason is we scored too soon at the end of the game on a long run. Would have preferred to have had the ball and score with little time left. (e.q. Oregon game) Did not question Gus's coaching in that one.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 11:36 am to GenesChin
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Timmy Jernigan put his team on his back
this can not be understated. I have never seen a DT completely shite on a team like he did that day (sans Fairley)
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 11:37 am
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:02 pm to jvilletiger25
If a frog had wings he would bump his arse when he jumped
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:05 pm to LanierSpots
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hough it hurt as much as anything, that loss did not mean a thing.
Even if this is true, I don't think Gus took the approach that this massive frick up was one that wouldn't hurt us if we went on a run. I know that's a ridiculous thing to say, but it could have just as easily been a decisive game that was outright lost by the coach.
I understand your overall point, and I think people commonly blame Gus for too much, but he lost that game. His team went out and largely did what was asked, and he denied them (and the program, and the fans) that win. Hopefully we never see that shite again.
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:21 pm to GenesChin
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In the past decade, guys like Bobby the Motorcycle, Les Miles and Tubz all fit that description and I thought they all were successful. I'll give honorable mention to Dan Mullen because that trash State program should get like a -2L handicap
Thats cool and all but i would not take any of those coaches over Gus. Not Bobby Patrino and certainly not Les Miles and we saw what happened to Tubz as soon as Saban got to town. Instantly. Though I like Tommy, he severely benefited by Alabama been on probation and having recruiting deficiancies most of his tenure at Auburn
No
coach has really stood up to Saban like Gus.
This post was edited on 8/29/18 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:22 pm to Pettifogger
I upvoted your post because I agree with it 99.9% 
Posted on 8/29/18 at 12:40 pm to jvilletiger25
This would be a delicious bump on Saturday if we are down 10-0 midway through the 2nd qtr
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