re: Gatewood

Tate hasn't announced a transfer yet so anything you hear from insiders is likely bullshite. But IF they transfer you would have to believe Auburn would be contenders for both Tate and Fields.

I think a lot of people conflate what they would like to see happen with what they think will happen.

I would prefer the younger guys to get the time. But I think that will not be the case.

Of course, I want us to win, either way.

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They are not going to fire a coach and give him30 or 40 million dollars to leave for losing the Crap bowl or going 7-5. Just face it, unless the wheels totally fall off, Gus will be here for a few more years at the minimum. Until that buy out becomes something reasonable

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I don’t understand why this is hard to see. The extension shouldn’t have been made without an ad in place but it was and it is over with. You don’t fork out 30+ mil to get rid of a coach with a winning record and is ahead of most other auburn coaches in winning percentages.

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It’s a hard pill for our fans on this board to swallow. Gus will be here 2-3 more seasons with a winning record and if he steps it back up with an sec championship and playoff appearance then he’ll be here the remainder of his contract, if not longer.

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I have never seen a coach get so much hate from a huge chunk of the fanbase for so little. He has been to two SEC championships in his time. He certainly has his issues and the UT loss was a tough pill but I can deal with most of the rest. UGA and UA will always out recruit us barring catastrophe and both are hitting their respective strides. A loss to them sucks but it isn't the worst thing a coach can do.

I want to see us compete well with and beat LSU, A&M, the MS schools and the rest of the SEC. Alabama is on their (and flat out THE) best run in college football history.

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Loser mentality. Consistently strong programs recruit themselves.

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that isn't a loser mentality, it is being realistic. We are the second school in Alabama and always will be. It isn't a bad thing or a negative. Even when Alabama was pretty heinous in the 2000s and we were beating them on the regular, Alabama still got better prospects on campus than we did and there is a reason for that.

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Even when Alabama was pretty heinous in the 2000s and we were beating them on the regular, Alabama still got better prospects on campus than we did and there is a reason for that.

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Bc tubbs wasn't a recruiter, he was a scout. Kids dgaf who the "first school" or "second school" is. They want to go where they can play and win. I bet your arse with a head coach that could recruit things would've look a lot different in the mid 2000s.

And that is 100% a loser mentality and if the people in charge at AU think the same way you do, we're never gonna be a power. And people who think like that don't deserve to be in charge.

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Expecting us to recruit at Bama’s level is unrealistic.

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This wasnt your original argument. You said Bama and UGA will always outrecruit us. Bama is on a historic tear that no one will match. But there's no reason once they come back down to earth that we couldn't beat them on the recruiting trail. If we had a coach and an administration that didn't have this "we will always be outrecruited by the big boys" bullshite second rate loser mentality, at least.


For the record I think Gus doesn't have that mentality, he just can't win at the necessary rate.

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Expecting us to recruit at Bama’s level is unrealistic.

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I do agree, but that is why I think it is so important to evaluate correctly and then develop that talent.

It is my understanding Gatewood has been hindered because of injury. Is that correct? If he is at 100% we should see him and hopefully he will look like a qb.

Same for me as far as the OL goes. I admit I am not an expert, but it has always seemed to me those guys need to be big, football smart and nasty. After that, so much of it hinges on them developing the proper technique.

I think Gus usually has us around the top 10 in recruiting. It is the development that worries me. Hopefully if we see Gatewood, we see a guy who can run the offense Gus used to play.

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I do agree, but that is why I think it is so important to evaluate correctly and then develop that talent.

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I might add I think the evaluation is part is alright, but development is a weakness.

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But there's no reason once they come back down to earth that we couldn't beat them on the recruiting trail. If we had a coach and an administration that didn't have this "we will always be outrecruited by the big boys" bullshite second rate loser mentality, at least.

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Alabama could be on sanctions and have zero scholarships and there are a lot of parents that would rather pay to send their kids to Alabama than to get a scholarship to Auburn. It is the way it is. Look at the 2000s when we drummed them and Alabama kept getting the top talent in the state. Numbers wise we were signing more but most weren't showing up on campus.

UGA and Alabama have the state namesake. It is the way it is. Like I said before, it isn't a negative but they will have built in recruiting that no matter what, they will get a certain pool of players.