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Did Gus do enough to get another running back ready for the SECCG?

Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:35 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:35 am
Should our $7M man have tried to get more touches for some of our other backs throughout the year once Pettway was out?

Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:39 am to
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Should our $7M man have tried to get more touches for some of our other backs throughout the year once Pettway was out?


I feel like we might need to admit that the other guys aren't enough. KJ at 60% still was more affective between the tackles than any back we put on the field against uga. Martin can threaten the outside and if a hole opens directly in front of him can mouse his way to 6 yards, but none of them have shown an ability to do what KJ did for this offense this season other than Kam P. You really don't need the tailback to threaten the outside in this O because Stove who functions like the wingback does it for us, as well as, Davis on the screens. To be fair to Barrett I hardly remember handing him the ball with a chance to show his inside vision. I do believe we have seen enough of Martin and Malik to know they need to get better or they will never be the answer.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 7:43 am
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:39 am to
Our better seasons with Gus have always counted on one to two players. Could you imagine what would've happened in 2013 if we lost either Tre or Nick? The worrying part to me is it appears like Gus knows this too, which is why we see him play star players at below 100%.
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:40 am to
He definitely ran Kerryon into the ground.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:41 am to
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Our better seasons with Gus have always counted on one to two players. Could you imagine what would've happened in 2013 if we lost either Tre or Nick? The worrying part to me is it appears like Gus knows this too, which is why we see him play star players at below 100%.



This is true of Auburn football throughout our history.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:44 am to
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Our better seasons with Gus have always counted on one to two players. Could you imagine what would've happened in 2013 if we lost either Tre or Nick? The worrying part to me is it appears like Gus knows this too, which is why we see him play star players at below 100%.

Yes if you lose your best player, you aren't gonna do as well....


I think this season we felt the mass exodus of RBs after 2015 the most. It's clear coaching staff didn't trust the young guys enough. Hopefully that changes next season. Also we add 2 more young back to the group so hopefully we have some actual real depth there. Whitlow should be coming back from surgery as well. We will see

Really hoping KJ comes back tho if I were him I would leave this year
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:46 am to
But they also went after KJ's shoulder so, how do we know what he was at the start of the game?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:52 am to
We were going to lose that game even if KJ was 100% healthy.

Everytime KJ got near the ball in the plays that he was in the UGA defense was on him like flies on a cow patty. Also UGA used a lot more toss-sweeps in the SECCG when in the DSOR they were trying mostly middle-run. We had difficulty setting the edge all game long on those toss-sweeps.

UGA made adjustments after the DSOR. Auburn didn't.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:53 am to
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But they also went after KJ's shoulder so, how do we know what he was at the start of the game?



I guess you could argue he was 100%, but even on the first drive he was hitting the hole with less aggression and taking longer to get off the turf. Still, he was our best back by far. His vision is what makes him good, his power his what made him great this year. He lost his power with the injury.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:56 am to
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We were going to lose that game even if KJ was 100% healthy.

Everytime KJ got near the ball in the plays that he was in the UGA defense was on him like flies on a cow patty. Also UGA used a lot more toss-sweeps in the SECCG when in the DSOR they were trying mostly middle-run. We had difficulty setting the edge all game long on those toss-sweeps.

UGA made adjustments after the DSOR. Auburn didn't.


Not sure why you'd believe that. We were down 1 score in the 4th driving to take the lead when KJ fumbled. We had left conservatively 9 points on the field at that point in the game and they cashed one of those turnovers into 7. That's a 16 point swing in a game we only trailed by 6. Even if you give uga the extra 4 points on their one deep red zone where the pick was called that's still a 12 point swing in a 6 point game. The D IMO due to injuries and fatigue simply gave out in the 4th quarter. A healthy KJ would have been worth another score or two and several more 1st downs. He has been that for us all season. We may have lost a one score game, but a healthy KJ would have changed the dynamic of that game. He also would have aided JS by preventing the D from teeing off on passing downs.

If you analyze the stats it was a dog fight until KJ fumbled in the 4th. It was a dog fight despite us loosing the turnover battle.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 7:59 am
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 7:59 am to
I do believe there should have been more touches for the reserve players with the full offense. I have some concerns that Gus is too narrowly focused to really develop players or change his game plan once he has it set. Pettway was not on the radar until he was forced. We won't know if the back up RBs are good until we have to find out. Maybe KJ and Pettway will be out for the Peach Bowl and we can get a glimpse or they have breakout games and he is forced to see it.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42555 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:02 am to
One of the Bham talk show got into detail on our backups last week. Had one of our beat writers on. Anyway, the main issue with our backups was they were terrible at pass blocking. Martin being the worse. Kam Pettway being an animal at it. KJ really stepped up his game the second half at this skill. Next season, assuming we are healthy, we should be fine. Asa, Pettway, and hopefully one of the others will step up.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:05 am to
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Pettway


Doubt he'll be back.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42555 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:06 am to
He basically has 3/4 of a season under his belt. Lacks explosive side to side speed. I agree is might go, but he won’t be a high pick.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38001 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:07 am to
They rushed for almost 250 yards.

We only completed 50% of our passes.

Both UGA and AU ran the same number of offensive plays. They averaged 6.7 yards per offensive play. AU averaged 4.1 yards per offensive play. The primary reason this happened wasn't because KJ was injured, it was because their OL/DL controlled our DL/OL for most of the game. UGA averaging over 50% more yardage per play than us wasn't a fluke.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:09 am to
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They rushed for almost 250 yards.

We only completed 50% of our passes.

Both UGA and AU ran the same number of offensive plays. They averaged 6.7 yards per offensive play. AU averaged 4.1 yards per offensive play. The primary reason this happened wasn't because KJ was injured, it was because their OL/DL controlled our DL/OL for most of the game. UGA averaging over 50% more yardage per play than us wasn't a fluke.


As my post stated break the numbers down by quarter. We were in the game until the 4th. Looking at the stats is a great way to not view a game emotionally. I did not say we would have won, but I have no doubt the stats through 3 quarters were close enough that a healthy KJ would have given us a legit shot.

Those stats you list reflect the advantage uga gained in the 4th I believe it was 120 to 25 or something like that.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 8:11 am
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42555 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:12 am to
Also, I love KJ as a player, but he has some major durability issues. He has been injured every year.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:15 am to
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He basically has 3/4 of a season under his belt. Lacks explosive side to side speed. I agree is might go, but he won’t be a high pick.



Rumors on the other site that KP won’t be allowed to come back.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42555 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:16 am to
The “girlfriend” rumor?
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 8:17 am to
Sean White situation rumor
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