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Coaching record stat re: Gus and his extension

Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:20 pm
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:20 pm
I came across this on the Bunker and quickly researched, and it appears to be accurate.

The following coaches have been employed by their current employer for the last 5 years or more, including 2017, and have a better winning percentage than Gus:

1. Urban Meyer
2. Nick Saban
3. Dabo Swinney
4. David Shaw
5. Gary Patterson
6. Brian Kelly

No other school has a coach who has at least five consecutive years or more at that school with a winning percentage at that school that is higher than Gus' win percentage at Auburn.

Coaches like Stoops (recently retired) and Jimbo (took a new job) would have also been ahead of Gus.

Not bad when you consider Saban and Bama are making perhaps the greatest run in CFB history.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:36 pm to
Phillip Marshall actually put up a really good story today showing how Malzahn's first 5 years compare historically with other AU coaches

5-year comparison: Malzahn seeks milestone victory (247)
quote:

AUBURN, Ala. - Gus Malzahn will try against Central Florida inthe Peach Bowl on Jan. 1 to equal the program record for wins by an Auburn head football coach in his first five seasons.

Malzahn is 45-21 going into Auburn’s game at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta. He has won a Southeastern Conference championship, played for another and played for a national championship. He is the only coach in Auburn history to win a championship in his first season.

Auburn has had seven head football coaches since Shug Jordan took over in 1951. With a win in the Peach Bowl, Malzahn can match Terry Bowden’s five-year total of 46 wins. Starting with Jordan’s arrival in 1951, Malzahn,Gene Chizik and Pat Dye are the only Auburn coaches to win championships in their first five seasons.

Bowden posted records in his first five seasons that will be difficult to match. He was 46-12-1 overall, winning 78.8 percent of his games, and 29-10 in the SEC, winning 73.7 percent of his games. He won his first 20 games.

Ironically, Bowden resigned after a 1-5 start in 1998, choosing to leave when he became convinced he would be fired at season’s end.

Dye was 42-18 overall in his first five seasons, winning 70 percent of his games. He was 19-11 in the SEC, winning 63.3 percent. He won an SEC championship in 1983, his third season and then had disappointing seasons in 1984 and 1985. He won 10 games in 1986 and then won three straight SEC championships.

Malzahn has won 68.1 percent of his games overall and has gone 25-15 in the SEC for 62.5 percent.

Here is a comparison of the first five seasons of each Auburn coach, starting with Jordan:

SHUG JORDAN 1951-55

1951: 5-5, 3-4

1952: 2-8, 0-7

1953: 7-3-1, 4-2-1

1954: 8-3, 3-3

1955: 8-2-1, 5-1-1

Total: 30-21-2 (.566) 15-17-2 (.441)

Noteworthy

-- Inherited a program that had gone 0-10 the previous season and had won just nine games the previous five seasons.

-- Only coach in study to have a losing SEC record in his first five seasons.

-- Went on to win the national championship and his only SEC championship in 1957.

-- Teams finished nationally ranked 13 times.

-- Had 13 consecutive winning seasons from 1953-1965.

-- Retired in 1975 after 25 seasons. He remains Auburn’s winningest coach.

DOUG BARFIELD 1976-1980

1976: 4-7, 3-3

1977: 6-5, 5-1

1978: 6-4-1, 3-2-1

1979: 8-3, 4-2

1980: 5-6, 0-6

Total: 29-25-1 (.536), 15-14-1 (.516)

Noteworthy

-- Rebuilt program after a 4-7 start in 1976.

-- Finish 1979 season ranked No. 16.

-- Was let go after a disappointing season in 1980.

-- Promoted from offensive coordinator when Jordan retired after the 1975 season.

PAT DYE 1981-85

1981: 5-6, 2-4

1982: 9-3, 4-2

1983: 11-1, 6-0

1984: 9-4, 4-2

1985: 8-4, 3-3

Total: 42-18 (.700), 19-11(.633)

Noteworthy

-- Won Auburn’s first SEC championship since 1957 in 1983 and finished ranked No. 3.

-- Went on to win four SEC championships in 12 seasons.

-- Named New York Times national champion in 1983.

TERRY BOWDEN 1993-1997

1994: 11-0, 8-0

1995: 9-1-1, 6-1-1

1995: 8-4, 5-3

1996: 8-4, 4-4

1997: 10-3, 6-2

46-12-1 (.788), 29-10-1 (.737)

Noteworthy

-- Went 11-0 in his first season and won his first 20 games, both firsts in Division I football.

-- Holds program record for a coach in his first five seasons with a .788 overall winning percentage and .737 winning percentage in SEC games.

-- Took Auburn to its first SEC Championship Game in 1997, falling 30-29 to Tennessee.

-- Resigned midway through his sixth season in 1998 after starting 1-5.

TOMMY TUBERVILLE 1999-2003

1999: 5-6, 2-6

2000: 9-4, 6-2

2001: 7-5, 5-3

2002: 9-4, 5-3

2003: 8-5, 5-3

Total: 38-24 (.612), 23-17 (.575).

Noteworthy

-- Beat Alabama six straight times and seven out of eight.

-- Averaged 8.5 wins per season in 10 seasons.

-- In his second through ninth seasons, he averaged 9.5 wins per season.

-- Won 16 out of 17 games against SEC opponents in 2004 and 2005 and 22 out of 25 in 2004-2006.

-- Resigned after going 5-7 in 2008.

GENE CHIZIK 2009-2012 (4 YEARS)

2009: 8-5, 3-5

2010: 14-0, 8-0

2011: 8-5, 4-4

2012: 3-9, 0-8

Total: 33-19 (.634), 15-17 (.468)

Noteworthy

-- Won the national championship, going 14-0 in 2010, his second season.

-- Fired after going 3-9 in 2012.

-- Auburn defensive coordinator in 2002-2004.

-- Oversaw greatest comeback in school history from a 24-0 deficit at Alabama in 2010.

GUS MALZHN 2013-present

2013: 12-2, 7-1

2014: 8-5, 4-4

2015: 7-6, 2-6

2016: 8-5, 5-3

2017: 10-3, 7-1 (one game to play)

Total: 45-21 (.681), 25-15 (.625).

Noteworthy

-- Won SEC championship and lost in the BCS Championship Game in 2013, his first season.

-- Won SEC West and played in SEC Championship Game this season after beating No. 1 Georgia and No. 1 Alabama in November.

-- Served as Auburn’s offensive coordinator in 2009-2011, coaching Heisman Trophy winner Cam Newton.

-- Joined Terry Bowden as the only coaches in modern Auburn history to start their tenures with five straight winning seasons.

-- Has taken three Auburn teams to New Year’s Six bowls.

-- With a win over Central Florida in the Peach Bowl, can match Terry Bowden with 46 wins in his first five seasons.

-- Only coach in Auburn history to win an SEC championship in his first season.
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:38 pm to
It's like I started saying to my friends when the extension talks heated up....what is the BETTER option?

He's a top 10 coach in CFB right now. We're a top 10 program, right now. He's built the roster into something really, really impressive. He is getting great development out of his players and they improve as they get older. I have/had no issues with the extension.

Just has to keep his mojo going, keep a QB developer on staff, and keep the playbook/playcalling balanced on O.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:19 pm to
And unlike TT and Chizik, one thing Malzahn has also done is always keep his team in every game. No shocking blowouts by the other team we are favored in.

I exclude the SECCG bc we were in it going into the 4th qtr and without the offensive MVP of the conference not able to contribute at a high level, it was going to be hard to overcome...
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

The following coaches have been employed by their current employer for the last 5 years or more,


Yeah people get fired or move a lot in the football world.



quote:

Urban Meyer
2. Nick Saban
3. Dabo Swinney
4. David Shaw
5. Gary Patterson
6. Brian Kelly


How many on this list have losing records to thier two biggest rivals yet want $7 million per year?
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
16975 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

How many on this list have losing records to thier two biggest rivals yet want $7 million per year?


Exactly. Raise your hand if you wouldn't take any of those coaches (excluding Brian Kelly) over GusShortBus. He's not in the same stratosphere as those guys.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:31 pm to
Tell us what your preferred outcome would have been and I'll tell you why it's worse than what happened or impossible.
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

How many on this list have losing records to thier two biggest rivals yet want $7 million per year?


Swinney is 4-5 vs South Carolina. Lost his first 5 games

Brian Kelly is 2-6 vs Stanford

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17269 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

How many on this list have losing records to thier two biggest rivals yet want $7 million per year?
Patterson at TCU is 2-4 against Okie State and 1-6 against OU since joining the Big<12.

Dabo was 40-19 at the end of his fourth full season at Clemson, and was 2-3 vs FSU, 2-4 vs GA Tech, and 1-4 vs South Carolina.

We know about how thoroughly mediocre Saban was his five seasons at Michigan State.

Yeah, it's a complete crapshoot paying Gustav $7 large right now. But don't act like that's going to be some sort of outlier for major college HCs. I imagine every guy on this list who isn't already making $8+ million now will be by the end of 2019.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:24 pm to
quote:

Tell us what your preferred outcome would have been and I'll tell you why it's worse than what happened or impossible.


Easy. $7 million per year with a $3 million total buyout of the contract.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61526 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 3:42 pm to
Facts and shite


Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Easy. $7 million per year with a $3 million total buyout of the contract.


Do you know what the contract details are?
Posted by GambitAUfan
Member since Nov 2010
2844 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 4:32 pm to
Some strong facts in this thread
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 6:45 pm to
All on that list above Malzahn would never leave their current team except Kelly....and I don't think he is any better than Malzahn at times.

So those that don't think GM was worth the raise, only can do what UT did, go back to an asst or a smaller P5 school and start all over...

Other than Gus' brain crap during playing calling of a game or two...the one thing he has always done is COMPETE and give us a chance..Unlike some of our old coaches like TT, that would find a way to lose to an under .500 SEC team...(I know we lost to GA last year but QB injuries killed us)

We are stuck and just hope that CL continues to call plays and grow our offense after their 1st year learning curve together..
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 6:48 pm
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:05 pm to
Gus also faced an SEC West that had Manziel, Prescott, Freeze, and Les Miles at his prime.

2013-2015 was the strongest SEC West there has ever been. Plus UGa was loaded and we played Dabo every year.

None of those coaches on that list would have done much better than Gus during that stretch. In fact, Meyer could not handle the SEC. TCU probably faced the 2nd hardest schedule in that time frame.
Posted by JRoweMDN
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
703 posts
Posted on 12/8/17 at 8:21 pm to
I'm not saying Gus' raise was the wrong decision and I am also not sure Gus is the man. If he was at Bama he would be a hero because they are so deep with 5* athletes and he would be able to substitute after riding a player into the ground. As it stands he could get ahead of the recruiting curve and be OK, but I won't fully believe in him until he wins big games next year and then brings Willis along or has a good QB behind Stidham.

As for $7-10M salaries for coaches it's a little ridiculous how fast they have moved without real accomplishments. It disappoints me that salaries are not performance based. I have no problem with a coach making $10M if they win the NC if half or less is base. The agents are doing their job and I hate it.
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