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Casey Mize signs

Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:06 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:06 pm
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And on Monday, he signed with the Detroit Tigers and (per Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Free Press) received a bonus $7.5 million — a new record for the current draft structure.



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Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:40 pm to
Wonder why he left money on the table? Targeted signing bonus for his draft status was @ 8 mil. I need a loan dangit.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:11 pm to
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Wonder why he left money on the table? Targeted signing bonus for his draft status was @ 8 mil.


It was the second highest in the slot limit era.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Wonder why he left money on the table? Targeted signing bonus for his draft status was @ 8 mil. I need a loan dangit.



That is the max he could get. He probably would have gotten the max if he was a jr..
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:10 pm to
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He probably would have gotten the max if he was a jr..


He is a junior.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:22 pm to
I thought he was a senior. I would have thought the leverage he had coming back would have driven the price to the max. It's still a hell of a signing bonus.
Posted by JamalSanders
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:50 pm to
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I thought he was a senior. I would have thought the leverage he had coming back would have driven the price to the max. It's still a hell of a signing bonus.


Very few first round picks get full slot.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:42 pm to
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would have thought the leverage he had coming back


What leverage do you think he had exactly? You think losing a salary year + risking a #1 overall slot over a 7-10% bonus hike is leverage?


You can't do better than #1 overall but you can do a hell of a lot worse.


Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 1:47 am to
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What leverage do you think he had exactly? You think losing a salary year + risking a #1 overall slot over a 7-10% bonus hike is leverage?


While true, Detroit could lose the rights to the #1 overall pick if he had come back. Seniors have zero leverage. Juniors have another option than signing on the dotted line.
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:50 am to
You do realize they would get the #2 pick the following draft if Mize didn’t sign right? The tigers have the majority of the leverage here. The teams generally sign players to slightly above the value of the following pick because of the leverage tilting towards the teams.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4181 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 7:47 am to
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Wonder why he left money on the table? Targeted signing bonus for his draft status was @ 8 mil. I need a loan dangit.


I would imagine they negotiated down the signing bonus to use the other $500k towards another prospect and stay under the slotting cap, but Casey is getting that money baked back in his contract somewhere.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 8:04 am to
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Juniors have another option than signing on the dotted line.


Only an absolute moron would return to school after being drafted #1


Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:19 am to
You guys really don't understand the MLB draft LOL.

Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:25 am to
Nothing like having the #1 pick and we Auburn fans find something to complain about
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 10:37 am to
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I would imagine they negotiated down the signing bonus to use the other $500k towards another prospect and stay under the slotting cap, but Casey is getting that money baked back in his contract somewhere.



They can't do that, and its not what happened. It would also be highly illegal (see: John Coppolella and his lifetime ban for gaming the system albeit in a different but similar market). Mize simply signed for the most money his leverage dictated, because turning down that offer would be absolutely retarded on about a hundred different levels.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61547 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:10 pm to
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Nothing like having the #1 pick and we Auburn fans find something to complain about




If Mize had not come through Auburn during the Jay Jacobs tenure, he would have gotten 3 million more


Fact


Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:21 pm to
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Only an absolute moron would return to school after being drafted #1


While true, Juniors have some leverage. Seniors have zero.

It wasn't the #1 pick, but not far behind.....

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Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3598 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 12:38 pm to
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While true, Juniors have some leverage. Seniors have zero.



If he didn't sign, he would be a Senior in next year's draft with zero leverage, so how exactly is he benefiting from not signing?

Bringing up Karsten Whitson doesn't even make any sense as he's the perfect example of why you SHOULD sign, especially as a pitcher. He declined $2.1 million, went to school, got hurt, turned out to not be that good anyway, and ultimately signed for $100,000.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:32 pm to
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While true, Juniors have some leverage. Seniors have zero.

It wasn't the #1 pick, but not far behind.....




This kid losing millions by falling from RD1 to RD11 is a great example why only morons don't sign RD1 deals.


Mize's only real leverage is to threaten complete stupidity and making a horrible life decision. Most people don't call that leverage



This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 3:33 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28280 posts
Posted on 6/26/18 at 3:45 pm to
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This kid losing millions by falling from RD1 to RD11 is a great example why only morons don't sign RD1 deals.

Mize's only real leverage is to threaten complete stupidity and making a horrible life decision. Most people don't call that leverage


I never once said he shouldn't sign. I only said juniors have some leverage while seniors have zero.

Mize's leverage would be that Detroit wasted their first round pick this year, if he chose to come back. While the MLB draft is deeper than any other sport, nobody wants to miss out on their first round pick.....especially the #1 pick.
This post was edited on 6/26/18 at 3:49 pm
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