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Posted on 2/16/20 at 1:57 pm to autodd03
Posted on 2/16/20 at 1:57 pm to autodd03
Samir is 0-6 if you include the Bama game. But he hasn’t been playing bad. He’s a silky smooth driver to the bucket, and that’s probably what he prefers at this point. He’s barely a 30% 3 point shooter. Don’t see why he needs to start chunking them up there.
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 2:04 pm to jangalang
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We have struggled on offense, specifically from the perimeter, all conference season long
Something you said in an earlier post is even more true. I noticed we did so much better when we would dribble drive w Samir and J'von and either went to the ft line or scored. Knowing they had not much in the middle helped.
I don't know if Mizz has a strong perimeter D but we had a terrible time trying to get open perimeter shots. The fact we tried even 17 3s was too many.
For a team only averaging upper 60's in points per game and we allowed 85 was a poor defensive game on our part.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 3:54 pm to jangalang
Samir was over 40% last year so we know he is capable. Hard to get 30 points inside the arc only and we'll need him going for 30+ to win without IO
Posted on 2/16/20 at 4:03 pm to autodd03
If we can’t get 30 from him our bench is going to have to do something. I know we have a bunch of TF but we are still fully stocked with scholarship players.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 4:08 pm to jangalang
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Flanigan is 4-32 from 3 this year.
I love his effort but Flannigan's shooting form is so poor. Its surprising because his dad and granddad are both coaches. It's a weird motion. He is never going to be effective from behind the arc until he improves his form.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 4:44 pm to TailbackU
So SI has Isaac Okoro going #3 to ATL. That would be the highest draft pick in AU history.
An interesting dynamic will be the draft order and not only just for team needs. The NBA draft has a lot of behind the scenes manipulations by agents/players to avoid suboptimal destinations.
If draft picks 2 or 3 are held by the smaller market teams, it would not be shocking for Okoro to be selected over a diva who prefers specific teams.
An interesting dynamic will be the draft order and not only just for team needs. The NBA draft has a lot of behind the scenes manipulations by agents/players to avoid suboptimal destinations.
If draft picks 2 or 3 are held by the smaller market teams, it would not be shocking for Okoro to be selected over a diva who prefers specific teams.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 5:48 pm to TailbackU
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love his effort but Flannigan's shooting form is so poor. Its surprising because his dad and granddad are both coaches. It's a weird motion. He is never going to be effective from behind the arc until he improves his form.
I've thought about this too. Hard to fathom
Posted on 2/16/20 at 5:49 pm to GenesChin
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So SI has Isaac Okoro going #3 to ATL. That would be the highest draft pick in AU history.
Some teams need a pg or a big but every team could benefit from an okoro type
Posted on 2/16/20 at 7:49 pm to autodd03
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Samir was over 40% last year so we know he is capable. Hard to get 30 points inside the arc only and we'll need him going for 30+ to win without IO
It's possible that the moving back of the 3 pt line may have effected our 3 pt shooters. Samir was never a great 3 pt shooter as he likes more the drive to the basket. Especially when they are contested. only Purifoy and maybe now Cambridge are what I call pure shooters and look smoother shooting 3s. The others can but they work to get that shot off.
Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:51 pm to AuSteeler
We fell from 13 to 24 in NET over 1 game? Wtf kind of metric changes that much over one game this far into the season
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:16 pm to auburnnyc94
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Wtf kind of metric changes that much over one game this far into the season
One where you have multiple components and a team previously propped up by only 1-2 components has a big drop in said components
Keep in mind in at least 2/5 components we are ranked 30-50+
Posted on 2/17/20 at 5:26 am to auburnnyc94
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We fell from 13 to 24 in NET over 1 game? Wtf kind of metric changes that much over one game this far into the season
Get ready to plummet without Okoro.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:09 am to GenesChin
That doesn’t really answer my question. Any data set shouldn’t change that much this deep into the season with a road loss to a team that isn’t ranked too terribly low
Posted on 2/17/20 at 6:27 am to auburnnyc94
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road loss to a team that isn’t ranked too terribly low
Missouri is around 100
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Any data set shouldn’t change that much
We are talking about rankings not data though. A lot of the ranking components likey have bunched data points. The margin between rankings extremely small
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:31 am to GenesChin
In all honesty we probably aren’t as good as our record and we aren’t as bad as we played Saturday night. We will probably get bounced in the round of 32 or 16 in the tourney depending on matchup it’s just how it goes. This season so far has been pretty incredible considering who we lost but I’m afraid next year unless we close out very strong in recruiting could be very bad. Cooper will be a great player one day. But he is not a take over a team kind of player for next year. He’s small and not as athletic as Jared or J’von. He’s got great handles and is a good passer and good finisher going to the basket but not sure the finisher part will be that good as a true freshman with the upgrade in talent level. He’s a little above average shooter. And horrible defender. Let’s take down of the expectation for the kid and let him grow into the leader we will need him to be. Now Jalen Green is a different animal. He will be ready to come in and contribute and be impactful immediately much like okoro. With the lack of guard play behind Samir and J’von he feels like a must get even if it’s for just 1 year.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:36 am to GenesChin
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A lot of the ranking components likey have bunched data points. The margin between rankings extremely small
Yeah I guess that's the explanation. Just makes it seem like a silly way to evaluate teams. Oh well, not gonna be as mad about it as long as we get into the tourney. Sucks more when you are a bubble team going into conference tourney with like a 37 NET and lose to a hot team and drop to 49.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:38 am to CorchJay
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In all honesty we probably aren’t as good as our record and we aren’t as bad as we played Saturday night
Agreed.
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We will probably get bounced in the round of 32 or 16 in the tourney depending on matchup it’s just how it goes.
Basically agree. If we can hold onto a 4 seed that will be helpful. Depends on who we match up with as well. I’m suddenly leery of teams with quick guards that like to run the floor
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:39 am to CorchJay
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Cooper will be a great player one day. But he is not a take over a team kind of player for next year
Let's just say I disagree quite a bit on Cooper. One of the rare players that will bump all of his teammates up a tick or two, and is always a huge asset despite the box score stats.
He is pretty weak defensively but so are a lot of small pg's coming out of HS. Bruce will make him play hard at least, and that will be enough for what kind of offense we will get out of him.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:44 am to CorchJay
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Cooper will be a great player one day. But he is not a take over a team kind of player for next year. He’s small and not as athletic as Jared or J’von. He’s got great handles and is a good passer and good finisher going to the basket but not sure the finisher part will be that good as a true freshman with the upgrade in talent level. He’s a little above average shooter. And horrible defender. Let’s take down of the expectation for the kid and let him grow into the leader we will need him to be. Now Jalen Green is a different animal. He will be ready to come in and contribute and be impactful immediately much like okoro. With the lack of guard play behind Samir and J’von he feels like a must get even if it’s for just 1 year.
Cooper is a better 3 shooter than J’von by far. Facilitates better. Agree on Green. As for the rest of our depth, I’m hopeful we can push somebody out and attract a grad transfer forward. Turbo or Jaylin could be the casualty.
Posted on 2/17/20 at 8:49 am to auburnnyc94
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Let's just say I disagree quite a bit on Cooper. One of the rare players that will bump all of his teammates up a tick or two, and is always a huge asset despite the box score stats.
He is pretty weak defensively but so are a lot of small pg's coming out of HS. Bruce will make him play hard at least, and that will be enough for what kind of offense we will get out of him.
We should be used to weak defending point guards. We know that Harper was not the best defender, and J'Von is good at steals at times, but his defending is weak just due to his size. He has trouble guarding the bigger PGs. Not his fault just a size matchup.
So Cooper will be a better offensive player, and will just need to work hard to play D but that is not what we got him for....
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