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AU Hoops: Do you expect in transfers out/in?

Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:26 pm
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8609 posts
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:26 pm
We have 5 seniors:
J'von
Samir
Danjel
Austin
A McLemore

1 freshman going pro
Okoro

Returning:
Flanigan
Williams
Cambridge
Johnson
Turbo
Stretch
Jevon Franklin

Coming In:

Sharife
Justin Powell
Chris Moore

Do we expect Jalen Green? Greg Brown? Any Grad transfers?

Do we expect anyone to transfer out?
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
33270 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:50 am to
Shouldn’t lose any from transfer. The 6 guys leaving are our top 6 in minutes played and our bench will be a little shorter.

Looks like Bruce is actively looking for a transfer PG. + Jalen Green seems like a real possibility at this point.

That’s all I know. Bruce definitely has his work cut out for him. Talented roster but another overhaul. The good news is that a guy like Sharife (possibly Green) really flips the script for what you can do next season. The roster is pretty young and you have to like what’s there for the future as they get more experience
Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16146 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:55 am to
I think the player that will be missed the most will be #24.

He was the glue for this team for the last 3 years. He was a matchup nightmare, great on defense, could shoot the 3 and spread the floor.

I think (overall) we will be better next year because of our guard play. Cooper is an elite player and he is unselfish. (Like Jared Harper).

McCormick and Doughty were very good basketball players but they were better at going on shooting streaks, creating their own shot, and hustling on defense. They did not “pass people open” like Harper.

Cooper is a generational talent and when he drives to the basket and kicks the ball crosscourt to an open shooter - this offense will be explosive. It’s why our 3 point percentage was so bad this year. Our guards did not “pass to the open shooter” enough.

And for those of you who think I am bashing #10 and #5 - I am not. They were both awesome Auburn men that had the same one flaw in their game. They did everything else great.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:58 am to
quote:

Do we expect...transfers?
We are hitting the guard transfer market hard so yes.
quote:

Do we expect anyone to transfer out?
Booster Hooks expects at least 1 FWIW.
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 7:13 am to
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It’s why our 3 point percentage was so bad this year. Our guards did not “pass to the open shooter” enough.
that’s not true. Our 3PT% sucked because we didn’t have a single player capable of consistently shooting. With the exception of Jamal Johnson (38%), nobody on the roster shot above 34.2% from 3.

We sucked from deep because Samir isn’t a 3 point shooter. Isaac isn’t a pure shooter. Danjel has an inconsistent shot, Anfernee regressed back to the mean, Allen shot 14% - enough said, and the one that showed the most potential from 3 in Cambridge shot the best mark behind Johnson but also played limited minutes.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:30 am to
With Harper at guard:

Player - % 3 pts
_______________
Samir .425
J’Von .500
Danjel .357
Anfernee .330

Without Harper (and a year more experience)

Samir .335
J’Von .305
Danjel .301
Anfernee .280

My point stands.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26662 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 9:41 am to
quote:

I think the player that will be missed the most will be #24.

I would have agreed with you before the second half of the season, but Anfernee was bad this year. I hate it for him that his senior year was easily his worst.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
8609 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Our guards did not “pass to the open shooter” enough.


We missed A LOT of wide open 3's last season.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4175 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 10:54 am to
quote:

that’s not true. Our 3PT% sucked because we didn’t have a single player capable of consistently shooting. With the exception of Jamal Johnson (38%), nobody on the roster shot above 34.2% from 3


I think its a combo of poor shooting at times as well as horrible looks. During the ruts of the season, we were just standing around and chunking up prayers - we were not getting people open and also not hitting shots, which is a bad combination.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Our guards did not “pass to the open brick layer” enough.



FIFY
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

With Harper at guard:

Player - % 3 pts
_______________
Samir .425
J’Von .500
Danjel .357
Anfernee .330

Without Harper (and a year more experience)

Samir .335
J’Von .305
Danjel .301
Anfernee .280

My point stands.


Did you forget the 3 pt line was moved back from last year?

How much it made a difference, who knows. But it has to, when you make it harder and longer to make a shot.

And second point is that when you asked to shoot MORE 3 pointers, your average is going to go down. And that applies to all those subs who didn't get as many minutes when Harper AND Brown were shooting all those 3s.

So, its not JUST that we didnt pass it enough...Most of us saw many wide open shots, that were bricks...
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
41856 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

My point stands.
Thise stats don’t tell me anything about passing to the “open shooter”. If anything it states that Harper drew more attention which resulted in more open looks. If anything, your argument should be that we weren’t as dynamic without Harper (duh) and not that we didn’t pass to open shooters
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37704 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:32 pm to
quote:


My point stands.


Are you sure?
quote:

With Harper at guard:


Player - 3 FG Attempts
_______________
Samir 101 3FGA
J’Von 19 3FGA
Danjel 56 3FGA
Anfernee 110 3FGA

TOTAL 206 FGA


quote:

Without Harper at guard:


Player - 3 FG Attempts
_______________
Samir 182 3FGA
J’Von 131 3FGA
Danjel 146 3FGA
Anfernee 93 3FGA

TOTAL 552 FGA

quote:

. Our guards did not “pass to the open shooter” enough.



Considering those guys shot more than double the 3FG attempts than when Harper was PG...

Maybe we passed too much to the open shooter
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

I think the player that will be missed the most will be #24. He was the glue for this team for the last 3 years. He was a matchup nightmare, great on defense, could shoot the 3 and spread the floor.





Not sure if serious
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:29 pm to
How many shots did Bryce take last year?
Posted by marshallcotiger
Member since Dec 2009
7944 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

My point stands.


I strongly agree with you. Neither Samir nor J'von were creators like Harper. Our 3 pt % was going to take a hit losing Bryce and Harper but it shouldn't have taken anywhere near the fall that it did. Harper was a true pg and had the ability to pass people open. Cooper has that same ability plus a little. He isn't the scorer Harper was but he's the kind of pg players love to play with because he makes everyone look better.
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Member since Dec 2013
16146 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Maybe we passed too much to the open shooter


Did you watch the games? We did not shoot tons of open threes all year. We dribbled around and jacked them up from 5 feet beyond the line.

Because we had no PG who could penetrate and kick the ball out.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16491 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 4:23 pm to
I love Cooper but as a True Freshman he isn't going to come in and be a game breaker. Probably won't even be a team leader. If we can hang around maybe by March of next year he can be what we think he can be but I expect late his sophomore when he takes the next step. He is not an elite jump shooter, he is not an elite defender, and he's not a physical specimen. A good year and half will be great for him on the court and in the weight room. I'm super excited about him because I think we get him for his 2nd and 3rd year before he turns pro and he will develop into a great point guard. I'm not poo-pooing on him just speaking in realities.

Next year will be Bruce's most difficult season. Expectations to make the tournament. Very limited minutes in returning players and true freshmen will have to fill in at multiple places for starting roles and role players. We definitely need a transfer point. We also need to finish out this class with some good bigs.

Obviously this is my opinion.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4175 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:27 pm to
I think you will be extremely impressed with Cooper. The only thing he lacks is size.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30806 posts
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Cooper is a generational talent


This has become my new most hated cliche. I don't think people understand what it means. Unless you mean in terms of AU basketball recruiting, then maybe but hopefully that's changing.

As for the OP I think we are going to really struggle next year unless we bring in a transfer or two along with Green.
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