re: Anyone else feel dumb?

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Gus- 67% wins at AU
Tubs- 68% wins at AU

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Gustav's record after 58 games: 39-19 (67.2%)
Tubs' record after 58 games: 36-22 (62.1%)

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Gus has under achieved or no?

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Based on your earlier arguments, definitely not.

Based on this argument you're currently using, maybe a little.. I haven't seen the rankings that you're referring to but i know there's three teams on that list above us that we play every year. So since you're using recruiting rankings as the end all be all, they should beat us every year. 3 losses doesn't translate to being ranked in the top 10 which is what I'm assuming you're saying the expectation is

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In 2015 and 2016 we played 11 teams with top 50 scoring defenses, we managed 13 touchdowns in those 11 games. That's a major problem, and unless we are actually able to score on teams with decent defenses this yer then nothing will have changed really.

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A lot of fair points in your post. But one thing that's becoming clear with Gus and his approach is the need for an elite QB. Not that there are a ton of programs that win consistently with average QB play, but it seems Gus isn't even capable of mediocre production without a star back there.

That suckage you reference over the last two seasons is a direct result of getting to the point, for even one snap, where JFIII was considered our best option at QB.

Good stuff, guys. A lot of passion. I'm going to put my Gus hate away, get on the stupid fricking bus, and try to enjoy the ride. WDE!

THIS RIGHT HERE

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I just don't want to be murdered by the angry mob of Gus Malzahn apologists. It's a nowhere road with you guys.

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Lame cop out

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It's a nowhere road with you guys. We beat a couple of bad SEC teams and Gus is the man again

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You've been unable to argue anything I've said. We're evaluating past results. Those two games barely even have an effect on the things we've talked about. So you're just making shite up again.

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It's a nowhere road with you guys. We beat a couple of bad SEC teams and Gus is the man again

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I have not seen anything of this sort. People are just saying that he is not doing a bad job right now and seems to be getting the team to play. Firing him everytime he runs a wildcat or a run up the middle seems senseless.

Auburn is in the top 15 right now with a very strong chance to climb higher. We have plenty of depth and other than losing Stidham, we are not relying on any one player.
We are in a good position. I know a lot of people are comparing this year to last year and I understand the comparison. But from where I sit, this team looks more prepared and better equipped to make a run than last year.

None of us are asking for a raise for Gus, just a little patience to do his job. I think a lot of the people who are going off the deep end are people from the state of Alabama who are grasping at the idea we will hire someone who will be able to take Saban down. I would not get your hopes up. There are 128 more programs out there trying to do the same thing.

"A Miss(y) State win and Gus saves face?

NIMHO...he still can't spot the talent at hand from the hoped for hype, which is why he still doesn't have his team ready to play until several games in. And he's making a (near criminal) career of running one star running back at a time into the ground by mid-season. He's also all but forgotten what got him the job in the first place (the HUNH fast - and the bases for his best seller). And he's just as likely as not, to reverting back to running on every 1st down as ever, followed by the ever popular signature-whirly-bird, and never moving the ball in the air inside the 20. Perhaps it would have been simpler to say, 'revert to predictably', but are we sure he's stopped? And I've not forgotten how he's quite-frankly-failed every HS QB he's tried to develop while at AU. Nor have I forgotten how he wouldn't allow QB's to use an off-season guru position coach, which is simply forever lost (allowable) practice time, and something they all could have obviously benefited from.

Nor do I call the 'Miracle in Jordan Hare' a brilliant call, instead of it being Nick Marshall saying, ' F__'it I know better than you'. Nor in the same stretch do I consider the Kick-Six anyway attributable to his acumen as a coach; and however spectacular these are, they're the two reasons for ultimately making it into the playoffs and 2013 NC game. Because honestly without these two non-Malzahn events it's a 5-3 SEC season, to go along with the 4-4, 2-6, and 5-3 he's tallied since becoming HC at Auburn, and hardly worth the millions (to go along with those 3 bowl losses out of 4).

So now suddenly in game four he's become a good coach? It's just as likely by game four he's finally willing to listen to other people around him, as he is to those voices in his head. Do you guys honestly believe a 3-2 Miss State is a power house quality win? It'll be real interesting to see how Gus performs the next four games (O'Ms, LSU, ARK, and TAMU) against very average SEC coaching (and the red-meat of the season). . . Melt over and out."

Bingo Awestruck.. You are certainly not your name when it comes to Gus. And you hit my sentiment on the head. Would the suddenly new Gus supports still be in line if we lose to UGA and Bama. One of the hallmarks of Gus' coaching is not knowing what we have when we come out of the gate. That just not good coaching.

My vote for post of the year