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6 - 15 vs GA/LSU/bammer
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:41 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:41 am
I believe this is his correct record vs our rivals. Isn’t this the issue with Malzahn? All the excuses for or against aside, it’s not competitive. How can this be deemed acceptable?
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Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:45 am to WillyB99
New information Willy. Who you want to go after bro?
Mario Christobol
Tom Herman
Chip Kelly
Chris Petterson
Bill Clark
Kirby Smart
Who you got man? Lets got get em.
Mario Christobol
Tom Herman
Chip Kelly
Chris Petterson
Bill Clark
Kirby Smart
Who you got man? Lets got get em.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:51 am to LanierSpots
I get where you’re coming from Lanier... but isn’t that argument the equivalent of saying “don’t try?”
Posted on 11/24/19 at 7:53 am to WillyB99
Why can’t we just admit that absolutely no one out there is better than Gus right now.
Even Saban lost to USCe, Ole Miss twice, and to Gus twice. And Louisiana Monroe. Why would we want that?
Kirby lost to USCe.
Cristobal lost to Arizona in his first year. Only 9-2 this year. Lame.
Dabo- Clemsoning was once a thing.
Bob Stoops: He actually cheated when he BEAT Gus in the Sugar Bowl. He threw it to his RBs too much.
Dan Mullen: just a hunchback Gus
and the list keeps going on.
Even Saban lost to USCe, Ole Miss twice, and to Gus twice. And Louisiana Monroe. Why would we want that?
Kirby lost to USCe.
Cristobal lost to Arizona in his first year. Only 9-2 this year. Lame.
Dabo- Clemsoning was once a thing.
Bob Stoops: He actually cheated when he BEAT Gus in the Sugar Bowl. He threw it to his RBs too much.
Dan Mullen: just a hunchback Gus
and the list keeps going on.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 7:55 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:00 am to WillyB99
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I get where you’re coming from Lanier... but isn’t that argument the equivalent of saying “don’t try?”
Im all for trying man. Im just saying, lets not rehash the same stuff over a million times.
Im in for a new coach. I think it is needed for the program as a whole weather I think its the smart choice or not.
Im just saying, lets pick someone that is a smart choice. Not a dart at a board like has been going on here all season.
Who would you like eo go after?
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:01 am to LanierSpots
Lanier, I think it is confirmed that you are the last passenger on the Gus bus. All coaches have flaws, but instead of telling me why we cannot hire a better coach, tell me why we should keep Gus? What is it about Gus that you like?
His unbalanced recruiting (oline, QB)
His offensive player development?
His record against our rivals?
His ability to rally the Auburn family?
Now let me help. He doesn’t cuss and his players stay out of trouble. His ability to sign a good contract (don’t blame him).
Hopefully he will go to Arkie/FAU but they do not seem to want him.
His unbalanced recruiting (oline, QB)
His offensive player development?
His record against our rivals?
His ability to rally the Auburn family?
Now let me help. He doesn’t cuss and his players stay out of trouble. His ability to sign a good contract (don’t blame him).
Hopefully he will go to Arkie/FAU but they do not seem to want him.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:01 am to WillyB99
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get where you’re coming from Lanier... but isn’t that argument the equivalent of saying “don’t try?”
Exactly. It’s like someone with low self esteem staying with their shitty girlfriend, because who else could I get? Nobody wants me
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:09 am to WillyB99
And a
If you remove those two miracle wins from being attributed to the untouchable one. After all NM and RL finally said frick it, no more FG's, we're going for a win. And it wasn't Gus's acumen which flipped that game into an 1 sec win. Yep.... Yes, it's a team sport.
quote:is more like 4-n-15 for Gus.
6 - 15
If you remove those two miracle wins from being attributed to the untouchable one. After all NM and RL finally said frick it, no more FG's, we're going for a win. And it wasn't Gus's acumen which flipped that game into an 1 sec win. Yep.... Yes, it's a team sport.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:11 am to allin2010
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Lanier, I think it is confirmed that you are the last passenger on the Gus bus.
That actually is not true and I know it is the perception here but its mostly just a emotional response from you guys because I have not been meltng to fire him all season. I am on the Auburn bus and always have been. Its a bad decision to get rid of Malzahn right now for many reasons. But I have been over that 50 times. Not going to do it again.
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but instead of telling me why we cannot hire a better coach, tell me why we should keep Gus? What is it about Gus that you like?
I have not said we could not said we could not find a better coach. There are always better coaches out there. You just need to pick that coach for the right reasons. Not like some of the guys here are just throwing out names every week without any reason. "Anyone but Gus"
Its a huge decision. Lots of things to consider. More than just a few fans who are tired of losing to LSU,Bama and UGA who are all pretty good programs right now. There are tons of reasons to keep Gus right now but its a silly argument for me to try and lay them out. Nobody here is reasonable and Im sure Id be labeled as "Accepting mediocre play" as I was earlier this year.
Id like to let the season play out and then see how things lay. We still have some ball left to play.
There are tons of reasons to keep Gus right now but nobody wants to hear that. Im just here to see if we can find a good coach to replace him with. Not like Christobol or Chris Petterson types. If you are going to fire Gus because you want to beat Bama and LSU right now when they are at the top of their game, it needs to be a better choice than that
And if you dont think I am not disappointed at how soemthings have went, you are wrong. But there are more things to consider right now than just "Gus Sucks" and we need to fire him
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:20 am to LanierSpots
6-15 bro. LSU is just now getting good. We are 3-12 in last 15 against Georgia and their run isn’t going to end soon.
It could be 6-19 next year and the second number could continue to grow but all you care about is that people have a problem with that?
It could be 6-19 next year and the second number could continue to grow but all you care about is that people have a problem with that?
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:46 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:24 am to jangalang
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We are 3-12 in last 15 against Georgia and their run isn’t going to end soon.
You guys act like Malzahn is responsible for all those
And I get it. I live in GA so I hear that every single day... What makes you think I have a problem with people caring about us losing to UGA? Thats silly. I do care. Ive never said anything otherwise. Stop making up stuff to try and gangbang me.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:27 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:28 am to LanierSpots
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You guys act like Malzahn is responsible for all those
I know he doesn’t own all of those losses. The losses to Georgia has to stop though. He’s lost to them every year since 2013. And they had some really mediocre teams in that timeframe.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:32 am to jangalang
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He’s lost to them every year since 2013.
That is not true. He beat them when they were the #1 team in the country. Stop making things up. Again. Lets have a honest discussion.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:33 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:36 am to jangalang
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What makes you think I have a problem with people caring about us losing to UGA? Thats silly. I do care.
I’m not trying to make shite up. We continue to lose and you continue to make excuses for him like well our rivals are good. Losing to our rivals for this long is not excusable.
Like I said, if we took care of business against the mediocre LSU teams (when we had 2nd half leads) and against the bad Georgia teams, things could’ve been much different.
Les Miles didn’t have a horrible record, but they fired him after losing to us. I have to think you’d still be on the Les Miles train.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:37 am to LanierSpots
I think the main problem with Gus is he has underperformed his salary. Sadly, this is not in his control.
I guess we stick with him unless it really bottoms out.
I hope athletic administrators and university presidents have learned a valuable lesson in contract negotiations. They do very few of them in a career compared to an agent. It might be better to hire a negotiator to do the big ones.
I guess we stick with him unless it really bottoms out.
I hope athletic administrators and university presidents have learned a valuable lesson in contract negotiations. They do very few of them in a career compared to an agent. It might be better to hire a negotiator to do the big ones.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:40 am to LanierSpots
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That is not true. He beat them when they were the #1 team in the country
Bro, we lost to them three weeks later. That win was nice but we didn’t gain any ground on that lead that used to be comfortably ours.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:42 am to LanierSpots
I think he meant as in lost at least once every year to them. The SECC L gives us a loss every year to them since 2013.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:46 am to makersmark1
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I think the main problem with Gus is he has underperformed his salary. Sadly, this is not in his control.
I could care less about the salary. Its pointless. Paying someone more does not make them better. Nothing to control here, its the going rate.
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I guess we stick with him unless it really bottoms out.
I mean, if we are trying to be a top 5 program, which is what we would need to be in order to beat our rivals, then we much get someone else who can get us there. Its obvious that Gus is not a top 5 coach. LSU, Bama and UGA are top 5 programs right now. They are our rivals and we need to beat them. We should move on from Gus
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I hope athletic administrators and university presidents have learned a valuable lesson in contract negotiations. They do very few of them in a career compared to an agent. It might be better to hire a negotiator to do the big ones.
It is the going rate nows so they will have to pay it. Unfortunately, the agents have done a better job than the schools. You are not going to get a reputable coach now without paying the bucks. That precedent has been set with all these high salaries and buyouts.
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:51 am to jangalang
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6-15 bro. LSU is just how getting good. We are 3-12 in last 15 against Georgia and their run isn’t going to end soon.
Exactly.
It has nothing to do with LSU and Alabama being at the top of their game.
As jang pointed out, LSU was good but not like this last year, and we still haven't beaten them in BR since 99.
GA was good but not like now, and we still have a 3-9 record against them BEFORE Smart got their.
And other than 2013 and the miracle run late in 2017, when have we gone into the ALabama game with a legit chance for the playoffs?
2014, 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019. That's 5 years we haven't had a chance at the Western Div or the SECC.
THAT is what we are talking about that pushes us to want a coach that might(and we know it's not a sure thing) get us over THIS hump.
This post was edited on 11/24/19 at 8:52 am
Posted on 11/24/19 at 8:54 am to jangalang
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I’m not trying to make shite up. We continue to lose and you continue to make excuses for him like well our rivals are good. Losing to our rivals for this long is not excusable.
Im not making excuses. You look at it that way, Im just looking at it from both sides. Not just the pissed off fan who wants to win every game.
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Like I said, if we took care of business against the mediocre LSU teams (when we had 2nd half leads) and against the bad Georgia teams, things could’ve been much different.
Totally agree. But we also have a few wins against our rivals that no one expected. You have to look at things realistically. We have had some big wins with Malzahn in the past years that no other coach has had. There are goods and bads..
I agree that if we took care of a few of those games we had leads on, the discussion would be different. And I agree that the LSU loss in BR was on him. The loss to UGA in Athens was basically doing what you could with what you had. Broke arm QB and no back up sucked. I was there.
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Les Miles didn’t have a horrible record, but they fired him after losing to us. I have to think you’d still be on the Les Miles train.
It has worked out for LSU. How many thought it would when they hired Coach O? Not even their own fan base. He has done well this year. It certainly feeds to fire to look for someone else. Would have have been OK two years ago to let Gus go and hire Coach O? Honesty. For every one of these hires that works, there are 10 that dont work. It was a stab in the dark by LSU that worked. Look at UCLA, Texas, Nebraska, etc. Lots that didnt. If they replace Malzahn, it needs to be something solid. Im all for that.
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