Started By
Message

re: 2014 Auburn Football Recruiting Thread

Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:40 am to
Posted by tigerboi256
AU Athletic Dept
Member since Jan 2013
291 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:40 am to
Perfectly placed fade route pass for an approx. 30 TD
Posted by WDE85
Member since Nov 2012
2161 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:46 am to
This guy is what we needed last year. Looks like the QBs that Bama has had for the last half decade.
Posted by AUTiger5
Close, but yet so far away
Member since Jul 2011
2602 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Or maybe our previous staffs preferred seniority over talent


You mean like our current coaches are doing with Eguae over Lawson and/or Daniel? And Jake freakin' Holland over Frost?

I understand that these guys may not be all there mentally yet, but I'd take a mental mistake every now and then if it means having a significant talent upgrade. Having Nose Eguae and Jake Holland as part of our starting defense is a joke.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:01 am to
Bc you're at practice everyday? Got find a fricking clue then come back and make retarded observations.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92626 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:04 am to
Agreed.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37791 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:07 am to
quote:

with Eguae over Lawson and/or Daniel?


It has been reported that Lawson does not play the run well and Daniel has been good but not enough to displace Eguae. Even JClowney did not start from the beginning of the year for USCe. Very very few true freshman start the first game of the season for any team, especially when there is an experienced starter on the roster. You ease them in to the new 85k+ stadium crowd environment and let them rotate in. See Michael Dyer, Clowney or any number of other superstud freshmen. It gives time for growth and adjustment


quote:

And Jake freakin' Holland over Frost?


Want to know a consistent trend with Jake Holland? He seems to be the only fricker on the roster who can call plays and align the defense. That alone gives him a huge advantage. Then Ellis Johnson has repeatedly brought up the fact that Holland is playing at a higher level than during the spring or on previous film. Either, way, the coaching staff is well aware of the shite they would take from starting Jake Holland and have in a roundabout way addresse dit. Blame Kris Frost because he LOST his starting job to Holland


quote:

but I'd take a mental mistake every now and then if it means having a significant talent upgrade


It is highly unlikely Lawson does not see significant snaps as a rotational DE early and ends up starting. To think he would start from day 1 at a position like DE is fricking stupid.

Considering MLB controls the front 7, a mental mistake causes the entire front 7 to frick up not just one player that potentially could go unnoticed. Big difference bro
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 11:09 am
Posted by AUTiger5
Close, but yet so far away
Member since Jul 2011
2602 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:27 am to
quote:

It has been reported that Lawson does not play the run well and Daniel has been good but not enough to displace Eguae. Even JClowney did not start from the beginning of the year for USCe. Very very few true freshman start the first game of the season for any team, especially when there is an experienced starter on the roster. You ease them in to the new 85k+ stadium crowd environment and let them rotate in. See Michael Dyer, Clowney or any number of other superstud freshmen. It gives time for growth and adjustment


Not saying there's not an adjustment period, but Lawson better be starting or getting the majority of the reps by the third or fourth week over a guy like Eguae. Eguae doesn't do anything well, which is why he's fifth-year senior who has spent his time here going in and out of the starting lineup. Seniority was mentioned, and I'm tired of it. It's time for our coaches to play the best players on the roster.

quote:

Want to know a consistent trend with Jake Holland? He seems to be the only fricker on the roster who can call plays and align the defense. That alone gives him a huge advantage. Then Ellis Johnson has repeatedly brought up the fact that Holland is playing at a higher level than during the spring or on previous film. Either, way, the coaching staff is well aware of the shite they would take from starting Jake Holland and have in a roundabout way addresse dit. Blame Kris Frost because he LOST his starting job to Holland


Want to know another consistent trend? Every time Holland steps on the field, he shows that you can't field a competitive SEC defense with somebody like him in the middle of it. Don't mean to be hurtful, but the truth is he's not fast enough or athletic enough for the SEC linebacking position. He's just not. Making the calls and getting everyone lined up is great, but if you can't run, tackle or cover to carry out the execution part of your defense, none of that matters. Everybody has seen Holland try to play in this league the last couple of years. We're in serious trouble if he starts.

quote:

It is highly unlikely Lawson does not see significant snaps as a rotational DE early and ends up starting. To think he would start from day 1 at a position like DE is fricking stupid.


I agree Lawson will get a bunch of reps early on, but Robert Nkemdiche is starting from Day 1 for Ole Miss, no? And don't say Lawson isn't ready physically, either, because everybody knows that's a lie. If you're good enough, you play, and I have a real hard time believing Lawson isn't better than Eguae right now.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37791 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Not saying there's not an adjustment period, but Lawson better be starting or getting the majority of the reps by the third or fourth week over a guy like Eguae. Eguae doesn't do anything well, which is why he's fifth-year senior who has spent his time here going in and out of the starting lineup. Seniority was mentioned, and I'm tired of it. It's time for our coaches to play the best players on the roster.



I am not quite sure what you are bitching about right now. You admit that it is alright for Eguae to start the first game. I don't think anyone truly believe that Eguae is going to be starting after the first 4-6 games. Also Eguae, like it or not, is a team leader and blah blah blah which is good for the first game. Lawson still will get a significant chunk of reps. Also, Eguae is one of the better DEs on the roster in run support so there is something he does well.

All that doesn't change that it is likely that Lawson starts just not right away


quote:

Want to know another consistent trend? Every time Holland steps on the field, he shows that you can't field a competitive SEC defense with somebody like him in the middle of it.


I agree that he is subpar, but you are missing the fact that our DLine got blown up last year. Subpar athletes like Manti Teo are heisman contenders when they have studs playing in front of them. You can bitch about Holland missing tackles but often times, the DLine caused him to get his arse kicked by not clogging running lanes or not tackling the guy.

I agree that Frost should be playing but at the same time, having the right calls is more important than you realize. Iti s more important to have 10 guys in the right place than to have 1 guy who can make a play and 10 guys running around with their head cut off

quote:

Robert Nkemdiche is starting from Day 1 for Ole Miss, no? And don't say Lawson isn't ready physically, either, because everybody knows that's a lie. If you're good enough, you play, and I have a real hard time believing Lawson isn't better than Eguae right now.



Lawson has surprised and played like a boss but Nkemdiche has been the best player on the entire field for Ole Miss. He also does not have problems in the run game which Lawson does at the moment.

Finally, it is way different when your entire DL is returning and you have experience to start a guy who doesn't.

Auburn has not only shitting DTs returning but will be starting two new faces at DE for the first game if Lawson starts. Eguae provides some experience



This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 11:47 am
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

You mean like our current coaches are doing with Eguae over Lawson and/or Daniel? And Jake freakin' Holland over Frost?

I understand that these guys may not be all there mentally yet, but I'd take a mental mistake every now and then if it means having a significant talent upgrade. Having Nose Eguae and Jake Holland as part of our starting defense is a joke.


Yea just what we need our mike linebacker having no fricking clue what's going on. Let's be honest Frost probably isn't even that much more talented anyway.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21800 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

AUTiger5

You dug through a month of posts to quote me on that?
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:36 pm to
Dude is a clown. It's never a good sign when ttstowel is the only poster that agrees with your opinions.
Posted by AUTiger5
Close, but yet so far away
Member since Jul 2011
2602 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

You dug through a month of posts to quote me on that?


Yeah, I haven't been on here in forever. Was just looking back at some old posts and found something I felt like commenting on.

I'm trying to be positive about this season, but with guys like Holland and Eguae starting, it's hard to see our defense improving a whole lot.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37791 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

Dude is a clown. It's never a good sign when Geneschin disagrees with your opinions.


FIFY
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12334 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
Am I the only one that doesn't mind Nosa starting? He was a talented kid his first year or two on campus. He didn't do much the last couple years but who did?
Posted by mockabee
Member since Aug 2010
1199 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
If y'all are going to continue this, take it out of the RECRUITING THREAD!
This post was edited on 8/25/13 at 12:41 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37791 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

He was a talented kid his first year or two on campus.


It always helps when Mike Blanc and Nick Fairley are demanding double teams and attention.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43864 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:44 pm to
The last coaching staff was deservedly second guessed (especially last year). I'm going to give these guys a season or two before I start thinking I know more about football than they do.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92626 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Dude is a clown. It's never a good sign when ttstowel is the only poster that agrees with your opinions.
I absolutely agree with his point on Nosa Eguae, he shouldn't be starting week 1. The dude is nothing special, and it mediocre at best when it comes to rushing the passer (let me stress, at best). What does Washington State do best? YOU GUESSED IT, pass the ball! There are better guys that could see the field to help out in that phase of the game.

Otherwise, the defense will get carved up because the quarterback will have all day to throw.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:19 pm to
Good lord.

I'm really wondering if you think a player starts he's going to play the whole game. We will rotate players on the d line the entire game. It's absurd to think that because he's starting that a guy like Lawson won't see the field.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92626 posts
Posted on 8/25/13 at 1:35 pm to
quote:

I'm really wondering if you think a player starts he's going to play the whole game
Absolutely not.

But I think it's pretty safe to assume that he'll play the majority of the snaps. Why else would they start him? I think we can both agree he's easily one of the worst pass rushers on the team, and Washington State is a bona fide passing team. I will admit that we don't have too many pass rushers on roster right now, but we could do better than him.

I'm all for him being in the game on running downs, though.
first pageprev pagePage 382 of 505Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on X and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter