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with NIL, I bet the transfer portal is going to get even busier

Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:52 am
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 8:52 am
as 2nd and 3rd team players transfer for more playing time, to attract more business, and basically that's what it is.
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:30 am to
Saban will use any new systems better than any other program. Any change will only strengthen Bama grip on the throne. Enjoy.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:36 am to
yeah. Saban will probably be best at navigating this too.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 9:40 am to
It's really a shame, because a lot of players are going to be so antsy to get money in college, it may end up hurting their pro prospects. Basically NIL is going to destroy player discipline and commitment. NIL in combination with the new transfer rules is the end of cfb, and the end of football period
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2785 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:30 am to
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It's really a shame, because a lot of players are going to be so antsy to get money in college, it may end up hurting their pro prospects. Basically NIL is going to destroy player discipline and commitment. NIL in combination with the new transfer rules is the end of cfb, and the end of football period


You are one melodramatic bitch.

College football will survive just fine. And some players will probably be selfish about it, but I think the vast majority will be happy to get a little piece of the pie while continuing to work and improve their stock.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18301 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 10:40 am to
When there was slavery, CC was the dude to say, "We can't free the slaves, they might starve!"
This post was edited on 7/1/21 at 10:41 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11825 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 11:59 am to
If anything it may help a few programs join the few elite currently at the top but I think it will hurt more programs in the long run.

Smaller programs not on the national landscape will have a hard time pulling in the 4 & 5 stars. Even regional guys that know the program.

You are also going to see some big time programs get hammered trying to use it to recruit laundering payments as promised prior to their commitment. Programs that use to be relevant are going to use boosters and whatnot to hopefully catch up quickly. Especially with the NCAA not requiring them to report it.

For Saban I think he will be able to successfully navigate it for the most part. Even though the college ca not help in endorsing for them to get paid he can provide guidance and I am sure there will be a agency designed for UA players to maximize their potential. Thankfully we have Saban for this.

The real issue are the agents that will push players o sign with them for NIL along with these handlers who now can provide a legit service to get paid off these kids. For them this will be like Casinos becoming illegal in Nevada for the first time. They will definitely be taking advantage of these kids.

Also not sure on the limitations for the endorsements but what happens if a kid wants Nike for an endorsement to sell his image while in college? Will he not attend any school not wearing Nike uniforms?
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44312 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:10 pm to
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The real issue are the agents that will push players o sign with them for NIL along with these handlers who now can provide a legit service to get paid off these kids.


Agreed. That's the biggest mistake in all of this. Player representatives absolutely should have been mandated to be university employees with fiduciary relationships with the players. Letting fricking handlers or shady relatives be "agents" is just welcoming bullshite.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7121 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 12:29 pm to
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Player representatives absolutely should have been mandated to be university employees


I think this is specifically what the programs and ncaa don't want
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44312 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:02 pm to
If they don't want that I really don't understand why unless it's something to do with not wanting to appear to be either employers or player representatives or creating a perceived conflict of interests. If it's the former, well that cat is out of the bag now. If it's the latter, that's why I said to create a fiduciary relationship between those representatives and the players that would require them to do what is in the best interests of the players.

I just think a system that effectively legitimizes handlers is a huge mistake. These guys need actual financial advice, not some high school drop out cousin skimming 30% off the top of whatever money they're earning.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11825 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:32 pm to
I read the NCAA is looking at a way to monitor boosters and will allow boosters if meeting certain criteria to operate on behalf of the athlete. They are trying to determine the level of each booster and ways to monitor as so it does not violate NCAA rules.

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11825 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 1:45 pm to
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These guys need actual financial advice


This will be the biggest thing for athlete that may earn large amounts. State income tax could drive students to specific states and play there. That is on top of Federal taxes.

A few states have no income tax which means all they earn is at least state tax free if their residency is in that state.

But it will also determine how they claim or their parents claim. If they are being claimed by their parents they will pay any taxes in their parent's state. Most college athletes are still being claimed as dependents.

But they could determine it is not advisable to be a dependent as to set up residency in their new state or their parents may no longer want to claim them because they push them to a higher income bracket.

Then you got the greedy state laws that professional athletes have to deal with at times. There is a possibility to be taxed in multiple states where the games are played.Lets say MS can determine the athlete earned his promotional money due to his performance in 12 regular season games the state of MS could say you played both Ole Miss and MSU in the state of MS this year. So 2/12th of your NIL money is being taxed in our state

So having someone that knows how to financially deal with this will be key. For many this will be the first time they will be receiving 1099s even for items instead of cash based on the value of the item.

Again for most they might not have to deal with it as they will make very little but some will. Each one should probably set up their own LLC(personally) to prevent from being sued, provide liability insurance, and to funnel the money through.

These handlers have no clue how to deal with any of this.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4349 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:03 pm to
If you look at BYU and Alabama NIL rules, and then compare to other schools.. some are flexible, some are strict. This is a situation where a top player can transfer because their current school has so many restrictions but Alabama may offer better NIL.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11825 posts
Posted on 7/1/21 at 2:12 pm to
Alabama under Saban and the athletic leadership will make it sure each athlete is giving the greatest opportunity. They may not be able to oversee the NIL per se but they can provide guidance which will help to direct them to make the best decision.

Posted by RollTide66
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2015
3005 posts
Posted on 7/2/21 at 12:45 pm to
seems that any hitting the TP would now ask another follow up question, ... what does the position room look like for my position AND what type of Social Media Following does your school have?
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