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Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:10 pm
What do you guys think?
I think Harsin may do ok after a couple of years.
I think UT made a bad choice. Just looking at the record, he did great the first year with Frost's players, but went down after that to 6-4 last year. Have to wonder how much impact hiring UCFs AD had on the decision as well.
I honestly don't follow other teams that much and was hoping for some good insight.
I think Harsin may do ok after a couple of years.
I think UT made a bad choice. Just looking at the record, he did great the first year with Frost's players, but went down after that to 6-4 last year. Have to wonder how much impact hiring UCFs AD had on the decision as well.
I honestly don't follow other teams that much and was hoping for some good insight.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:18 pm to Remiden
Auburn is better off. I think 2021 could be rough for them but he will ultimately be solid.
I think Tennessee is doing this all over again in three years.
I think Tennessee is doing this all over again in three years.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:26 pm to Remiden
There's like a 5% chance Heupel isn't an unmitigated disaster who leaves UTk with a mid-tier Sunbelt roster.
Harsin could be pretty good or gone in 4 years. I think we will know more based on how he recruits for the 2022 class. If things go poorly then I don't think he will be able to dig himself out of the hole that two back to back terrible classes creates for an SEC program in time.
Harsin could be pretty good or gone in 4 years. I think we will know more based on how he recruits for the 2022 class. If things go poorly then I don't think he will be able to dig himself out of the hole that two back to back terrible classes creates for an SEC program in time.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:27 pm to Remiden
I can't help but think Harsin will do relatively well at AU. I think their overall record will be better, but I also think their record against Bama will be worse than it was with Gus. Gus had an ability to outcoach Saban every other year and really amped his team up when playing us. It also helped that he had a rabbit's foot connected to a golden horseshoe up his butt but that is a different story for a different day.
Regarding UT. They can't really get any worse can they? I think it's a bad hire but it's probably the best they could have done
Regarding UT. They can't really get any worse can they? I think it's a bad hire but it's probably the best they could have done
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:30 pm to cdur86
Harsin feels like a low ceiling, high floor guy that delivers on average exactly what Gus did, but in a less all over the map way. Consistent 9-3/8-4 teams.
Heupel feels like Hal Mummee was. Ceiling of 7-5 but it's gonna be a wild ride to get there. At least they won't be boring as hell, so that's something for their fans at least.
Heupel feels like Hal Mummee was. Ceiling of 7-5 but it's gonna be a wild ride to get there. At least they won't be boring as hell, so that's something for their fans at least.
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Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:31 pm to Remiden
I doubt the Auburn coach will beat Alabama as often as Malzahn did. I also doubt he will recruit as well.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:50 pm to Remiden
Both will be fired in 4 years after they both go 0-4 against Bama.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 12:57 pm to Remiden
I guess I'm more down on him than others, but I kind of see the Harsin hire as going very poorly for Auburn unless he somehow knocks it out of the park on the recruiting trail.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:03 pm to CapstoneGrad06
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Auburn is better off. I think 2021 could be rough for them but he will ultimately be solid.
I think Tennessee is doing this all over again in three years.
I tend to agree with this. Harsin has more potential...but I don't see him equaling Gus's success.
Tennessee deserves all the misery that's coming to them just for all of the hatred they spew toward Butch.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 1:04 pm to FeralFeral
Don't know what it means for Auburn but Harsin had the best recruiting class in the Mountain West every year except this class where they finished second and Harsin was out less than a week after the early signing period. He also won his conference all but one year. I don't think that means he is winning SEC titles but it makes me think there is potential.
Heupel recruiting and record went down each year at UCF so I'm not too bullish on his chances especially if his best players go through the portal. I don't see him winning recruiting battles over Kirby, Mack, Dabo and the like.
Harsin has a punchers chance, Heupel probably needs some Riddick Bowe, Andy Ruiz type luck.
Heupel recruiting and record went down each year at UCF so I'm not too bullish on his chances especially if his best players go through the portal. I don't see him winning recruiting battles over Kirby, Mack, Dabo and the like.
Harsin has a punchers chance, Heupel probably needs some Riddick Bowe, Andy Ruiz type luck.
This post was edited on 1/27/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:26 pm to Carlton
I really wonder if both teams got some bad intel on who would be available to them... Neither coach is a home run, in my book. Doesn't mean they won't do well, just means they don't jump off the paper.
Just seems like both teams thought they were going to be able to pull in a major name and whiffed.
Just seems like both teams thought they were going to be able to pull in a major name and whiffed.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:29 pm to Robot Santa
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Harsin could be pretty good or gone in 4 years. I think we will know more based on how he recruits for the 2022 class. If things go poorly then I don't think he will be able to dig himself out of the hole that two back to back terrible classes creates for an SEC program in time.
Gus really fricked them over. Did he just basically decide to stop recruiting?
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:37 pm to 14&Counting
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Gus really fricked them over. Did he just basically decide to stop recruiting?
I don't know if it's that, exactly; it may be more of just the uncertainty that swirled around him for 2-3 years. He was perpetually on the hot seat during that time, it seemed, and it's almost impossible to recruit when players kept hearing he and the staff might not be there next year.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 3:42 pm to Goombaw
Harsin and Auburn is a marriage of convenience, he wanted out the Mountain West Conference, they need a solid coach with a good reputation. Neither expect this will last long. Either Harsin will go mediocre to bad and in few years he heads to a top group of 5 job or he outperforms expectation and gets a Pac-12 job. If he outperforms Auburn gets to decide whether they want to over pay him to get him to stay or if he does mediocre or bad they can do a real search since he likely stabilized the program. I think both sides know the deal.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 4:43 pm to cdur86
Unless Gus gave them the horse shoe he had up his rectum, I dont see how Harsin can do as well as Gus. Im not sure how the new TN coach can get a DC. He runs a fast paced offense, and all these DCs dont like that kind of offense. I think that is what caught up with Gus. Steele didnt want to field a defense with the fast paced offense that Gus was running, so Gus caved in and slowed it down. Tn is going to see arena ball.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 4:55 pm to remaster916
Exactly right. Solid and OK will get you fired in the SEC.
Almost every fan base in the SEC thinks they should win.
Neither of those 2 schools will put up with losing every year to Alabama. Thats already been proved.
Almost every fan base in the SEC thinks they should win.
Neither of those 2 schools will put up with losing every year to Alabama. Thats already been proved.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 5:09 pm to IB4bama
Heupel will bomb. I don't know why y'all think Harsin will succeed. Very few coaches who have succeeded at Boise have carried that success with them when they leave. Boise is the 800lb gorilla in that league. They get who they want and they out talent their league. He just signed up with just another SEC school. It's going to be rough sledding for Auburn the next few years.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 5:45 pm to Remiden
I think they are both scrubs that will win 6-9 games per season, beat Bama 1-3 times every 10 years, never become a threat nationally, basically, the same kind of coach they always get, and that’s enough to be legendary at those schools.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 6:02 pm to Remiden
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What do you guys think?
Harsin did fine at Boise but nothing mind blowing. I think that program is far better than most of their conference competition. I think Auburn will be more consistent under him but will probably beat us less.
I’m happy with the change because for all his flaws, Gus was pretty good at beating us compared to how other coaches have faired.
Heupel is a bad hire. He has no feel for tempo- just goes as fast as possible always. UCF progressively got worse under him. I know the national championship thing was a farce, but that program was in incredible shape for a G5 when Frost left and Heupel failed to capitalize on it.
Posted on 1/27/21 at 6:06 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Everyone should be ecstatic that our two biggest rivals had an opening and neither of them hired Hugh Freeze.
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