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Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:29 am to 4quartaBamaball
Posted on 4/22/19 at 11:29 am to 4quartaBamaball
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Lawrence made great reads all night. Delivered money balls when he had to and didnt make mistakes. Lawrence is great player who had one of his most complete games against the Tide in the natty.
I don't want to take anything away from Lawrence or Clemson BUT their was zero pressure on that guy. I mean like none whatsoever. He had all day in the pocket. They have a very good WR corp. and they blew up Smith all night.
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Posted on 4/22/19 at 6:25 pm to mistaken4193
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I must be the only 1 not impressed with Lawrence last year. He threw up a lot of 50/50 balls that his recievers went up and got and against us all of the big plays were bust/Saivion Smith.
You can downplay his talent all you want, but the guy is legitimately the best qb in cfb. If he were draft eligible this year, you'd see teams offering the Cardinals unbelievable shite to get him at #1 this Thursday.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 7:20 pm to Evolved Simian
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but the guy is legitimately the best qb in cfb
Might want to pump the brakes there a bit chief.
And no, I'm not advocating Tua is better than him.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:25 pm to prevatt33
If Bama has their top 3 pass rushers against Clemson next year, then I'm not worried about sunshine.
Posted on 4/22/19 at 9:29 pm to remaster916
They did not have a lot of success til late running the ball. Sunshine did not like heat I noticed when he did get it, which was seldom.
Got to cover Ross, play the run, and get after Lawrence.
And for goodness sakes, score in the Red Zone..smile.
Got to cover Ross, play the run, and get after Lawrence.
And for goodness sakes, score in the Red Zone..smile.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 8:44 am to mistaken4193
You're completely right if we're comparing him to heisman year Baker Mayfield, they aren't even close. If you consider that he was an 18 year old true freshman then I guess we have to be impressed.
But you're right, pretty much all I saw all year was him throwing jump balls and those the receivers making the DB's look silly.
But you're right, pretty much all I saw all year was him throwing jump balls and those the receivers making the DB's look silly.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 9:36 am to prevatt33
This is what you are extremely good at, Prevatt.
Warmly,
Your favorite fake Christian
Warmly,
Your favorite fake Christian
Posted on 4/23/19 at 10:32 am to Centinel
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And no, I'm not advocating Tua is better than him.
I mean, there is at least an argument.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 11:33 am to prevatt33
They are very good, we are very good.
When January rolls around hopefully we get another shot at them.
When January rolls around hopefully we get another shot at them.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:15 pm to Evolved Simian
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You can downplay his talent all you want, but the guy is legitimately the best qb in cfb. If he were draft eligible this year, you'd see teams offering the Cardinals unbelievable shite to get him at #1 this Thursday.
No. TL is overrated a bit. Great talent but I still believe Tua is a better QB. You can call me a homer all you want but that's not why I think this. TL rarely went through his progressions vs Bama. His first read was 5 yards wide open on every 3rd down and then he'd just launch it up. Meh.
TL is a great talent and he played great against us but the media and some of our fans have hopped on his lap and will not get off until he loses a game. What Watson did was more impressive against us in both games than TL was. The QB is not the only factor. He's not the lone reason we got curb stomped.
Tua is one of the most accurate passers I've ever seen. It's other worldly. He made 2 bad reads pre snap against Clemson but he also made some incredible throws in that game. He was throwing darts. There were a couple missed interference calls on Clemson that really affected the game...those passes were right on the money.
The only thing TL can do better than Tua is stand up and be taller. Our red zone play calling and execution lost that game as well as the LOS. Also Saivion killed us obviously.
With that said Tua definitely could have played better. shite happens. Even the best QBs have bad days. Aaron Rodgers has been outplayed before in a game...it doesn't make the other guy better. TL was not throwing the darts that Tua was.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:23 pm to LovetheLord
Posted on 4/23/19 at 12:38 pm to CrimsonDynasty
pretty much exactly how I feel.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 1:59 pm to Funky Tide 8
Only 2 teams really concern me at this point in CFB, and it's been this way the last 2-3 years and will be for the foreseeable future. Georgia and Clemson. Georgia is recruiting at our level and we have beaten them by the skin of our teeth the last two years. They aren't going anywhere. We are 2-2 against Clemson and Dabo has built a machine up there. I honestly hope our staff is working double-time even now on prepping for those two teams. I honestly think it's a 2 game season this year and most years. Find a way to beat those teams, and you're the champ.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:16 pm to tider04
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Only 2 teams really concern me at this point in CFB, and it's been this way the last 2-3 years and will be for the foreseeable future. Georgia and Clemson. Georgia is recruiting at our level and we have beaten them by the skin of our teeth the last two years. They aren't going anywhere. We are 2-2 against Clemson and Dabo has built a machine up there. I honestly hope our staff is working double-time even now on prepping for those two teams. I honestly think it's a 2 game season this year and most years. Find a way to beat those teams, and you're the champ.
I gotta tell ya, while I'm not "worried" as I think a fan should never be really "worried" by definition, I think both LSU and TexAM are much closer to being able to beat Bama than many realize. As a matter of fact, I'm considering doing a breakdown of both, similar to what I did in the OP.
Honestly, I think LSU and TexAM are both likely top 10 teams, with both having a shot at the playoffs with a nice year and getting a few beneficial bounces of the ball.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 2:58 pm to prevatt33
I agree that Texas A&M could take the next step this year and give us trouble in their house...but I just don't buy LSU being able to hang with us in Tuscaloosa with Burrow at QB. They don't scare me at all. Nice original post btw. I watched Clemson's spring game as well and agree with your points.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:02 pm to tider04
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Only 2 teams really concern me at this point in CFB, and it's been this way the last 2-3 years and will be for the foreseeable future. Georgia and Clemson.
It’s crazy. Oklahoma and Ohio State were arguably the 3rd-5th best teams in the country last year and they didn’t play a lick of defense. Then you watch our recent games against Washington and MSU and Clemson vs. Notre Dame and it looks like those teams would never score enough to win
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:18 pm to CrimsonDynasty
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I just don't buy LSU being able to hang with us in Tuscaloosa with Burrow at QB.
The reason LSU can play with literally anybody is this:
https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/
LSU is the only big dog in a talent rich state surrounded by other talent rich states. They sit comfortably in the group that includes the cream of the crop in total roster talent in CFB, and have probably the second best DC in the game after Venables. The only reason LSU really slipped of late has been their Olines and Dlines, which they are rapidly getting in order. Regarding Burrows, he's as good of a QB as Greg McElroy, and that's plenty good enough to beat elite teams if the other 21 starters play well and you win the LOS.
LSU is close. Real close. Roster talent is 85% of what wins in CFB - ask Nick Saban.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:31 pm to prevatt33
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The only reason LSU really slipped of late has been their Olines and Dlines
This has been their biggest problem by far. Their OL has been strait trash and they haven't had a decent DL in a long time. They are great at skill positions and Burrow is capable......but their OL is a turnstile and Bama has abused them. They had backs like LF7 and Guice and were shut down rushing.
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:32 pm to prevatt33
Yea, I'm aware of the talent in LSU and the fact that they don't have any real threat in state to compete for said talent(they do have to compete with us and we take our share but I get your point regardless) but that hasn't really made a difference recently. They have indeed fallen off on the LOS but their real issue is offense. Scoring enough points to make it a game vs Bama is their real problem and I'm going to have to see it to believe it that it will change.
I'm not so sure you can win a ring anymore with a McElroy at QB nowadays. Things have changed. LSU will always have enough talent to be a 10 win caliber team but as long as we continue to take their top talent then it will continue to take away from their ceiling.
Again...from what we've seen from them under coach O and what they lost on D this past year they just don't scare me. They can't run the ball on us and Burrow isn't good enough to beat us on his own. It will be another 2-3 TD beat down in T town this year.
Aggie does scare me a bit though.
I'm not so sure you can win a ring anymore with a McElroy at QB nowadays. Things have changed. LSU will always have enough talent to be a 10 win caliber team but as long as we continue to take their top talent then it will continue to take away from their ceiling.
Again...from what we've seen from them under coach O and what they lost on D this past year they just don't scare me. They can't run the ball on us and Burrow isn't good enough to beat us on his own. It will be another 2-3 TD beat down in T town this year.
Aggie does scare me a bit though.
This post was edited on 4/23/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 4/23/19 at 3:38 pm to Glorious
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Oklahoma and Ohio State were arguably the 3rd-5th best teams in the country last year
Last year, Ohio State got smoked by Purdue, would've lost to Maryland if Maryland's backup QB had hit a wide open man for a two point conversion, and needed Penn St to absolutely collapse to beat them. They played one great game all year, beating Michigan, and that's all everyone remembers.
Some would say, "Wait, OSU beat 4 teams in the final of the AP top 25." OK, let's see who those teams lost to:
Penn St, who lost to:
7-6 Michigan St, who lost to Nebraska and only beat Rutgers by 4.
Michigan, who lost to OSU, ND, and FL.
Kentucky.
OSU.
Northwestern, who lost to
8-loss Akron
5-loss Duke
Michigan
ND
OSU
Washington, who lost to:
5-loss auburn
4-loss Oregon
7-6 Cal
Michigan, who lost to:
OSU, ND, and FL.
OSU was a mediocre football team who played one great game in beating their rival. I'm not arguing against you point about offense and defense - I'm just saying that OSU wasn't close to being a top 5 team last year in football reality.
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