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re: UA vs UGA

Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:22 am to
Posted by tider04
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:22 am to
He displayed great pocket awareness, particularly in the Michigan game. His ability to feel pressure, and move around in the pocket to buy that extra half second was really impressive. But he has zero scrambling ability. He's very slow, he tried to scramble a couple of times and was easily grabbed by DL and LB's with little to no gain in situations where Jalen or Tua would have gotten up field for 8-10 yards. It's not a deal breaker with Mac, but he is not a duel threat by any stretch of the imagination--which is a really big advantage when your QB can absolutely smoke a defense with his legs when the pass is not there.

Here's what I really like about Mac. He seems to be a leader. He has fire in his belly (reminds me a little of AJ in that regard), after two fairly stoic QB's in Jalen and Tua, I like seeing a QB pump his fist in the air and jump up and down after a big score in a big game. I think it brings fire to the team that's healthy. I loved it when Saban had to tell AJ to "calm the eff down" after a big score against Florida one year. He seems to know the offense well, and is willing to play within the offense. IOW, he's not a gun-slinger--he's not always looking for the home-run ball. He doesn't mind checking down to the RB or TE for 5 yards. That's big. He's also tough as hell. He takes big shots that would have landed Tua in the tent, and gets up and keeps trucking. There's alot to like about Mac. I didn't want to get labeled as a Mac-hater on here. I just think he and Young bring two completely different set of strengths to the table in 2020. Looking forward to A-Day!
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

duel threat

This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:39 pm to
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But he has zero scrambling ability.


I recall him scrambling at least 10 yards for a big 3rd down conversion against Auburn. He definitely has some scrambling ability.

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but he is not a duel threat


Yeah I don't think anyone is arguing that he is a "dual-threat" QB. I am just saying that he isn't Tom Brady back there as far as mobility goes.
Posted by Brostache48
Member since Dec 2019
554 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 2:43 pm to
I'll go ahead and say it and this is only my opinion which really doesn't mean crap, but

mac jones led offense>Jalen hurts triple option offense.

Watching that playoff game made me realize how excruciatingly frustrating it was to watch a jalen hurts led offense
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2803 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 3:24 pm to
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Smart has got himself a new spread QB with a lot of experience and promising to run spread concepts

Newman may turn out to be a good QB...but that's not a given. Against any defense with a pulse last year, he was bad to mediocre, at best. And when he got knocked out of the Syracuse game (they had a terrible defense), his numbers were not good; his backup came in and lit up the Syracuse D comparatively. Newman will have much better talent at UGA to work with but I don't see him being the next coming of Joe Burrow. I'd have been worried more about this game had Fromm came back for his senior year...
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 4:33 pm to
I’m definitely worried now they have an actual offensive mind. That defense will be elite, too. However, I expect our offense to be elite, and the defense to be improved. Really glad it’s in Tuscaloosa. I think that might be the difference
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 5:07 pm to
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Really glad it’s in Tuscaloosa. I think that might be the difference


We've blown them the frick out the last two times we've played them in Athens.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
3294 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 6:40 pm to
Georgia has won the last two trips to Tuscaloosa. Granted those were in 2002 and 2007. Different times, teams, everything. It will be a very tough game.
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
74 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 7:24 pm to
Should be a competitive game. The last three sure were.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18275 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 9:32 pm to
Bump...

The game is going to be more interesting now with Cochran on the other side.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5618 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:02 pm to
We’re gonna rip “em up. Tear “em up. And stomp ‘em in the ground!
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9397 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:15 pm to
The media won with Cochran going to UGA.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 11:16 pm to
Saban, Alabama players react to Scott Cochran taking job at UGA (BamaOnLine)

Barton Simmons reacts to Georgia hiring Scott Cochran from 'Bama (247Sports)

quote:

MikeB (RIP Mamba) @MikeBlackSports
Per multiple people now, I’m hearing that coach Aaron Feld is meeting with Alabama and Nick Saban tomorrow.
6:02 PM - Feb 24, 2020


Aaron Feld: A closer look at the new Oregon Strength Coach
This post was edited on 2/25/20 at 6:09 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/25/20 at 5:57 am to
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Should be a competitive game. The last three sure were.



last *two
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 2/25/20 at 6:32 am to
Feld is fantastic. ESPN ran a story on him during College Gameday. He's been a big help for Cristobal.
Posted by diddlydawg7
2x Best Poster Elite 8 (2x Sweet 16
Member since Oct 2017
27477 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 6:40 pm to
I didn’t see this thread before.

As far as I see it, the game comes down to Mac Jones. I’m more excited for our defense this year than any other unit in Georgia history. That being said, if there’s a weak spot on our defense it’s probably our secondary.

We return Stokes and LeCounte, who will be great, but the 2nd CB will be Tyson Campbell. He was good as a freshman, but didn’t play a ton this year with injuries. The 2nd safety spot will go to sophomore Lewis Cine, who started at Star against LSU last year. If there’s a weak spot it’s probably him.

We really have no idea how good offense will be. I’m not super worried about the OL because we had a ton of guys play because of injuries. It really comes down to Monken and Newman.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 6:22 am to
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Newman may turn out to be a good QB...but that's not a given.


Do a side by side of Newman and Fromm. You'll be shocked. Statistically they're the same player. Newman was that bad in the ACC. Burrow trained at OSU. Started at LSU for a season then had the breakout season. Imo, Newman will be a little more than a bus driver qb. His only advantage over Fromm is, he can scramble better.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 7:42 am to
I don’t know why some of you are so worried about USC. They have some elite talent at the skill positions so I guess they have a puncher’s chance but their lines are shite. CUSA level talent on the lines. Their recruiting has been shockingly poor. They will depend on getting rid of the ball quickly to negate our pass rush. And trying to stop our offense will be a monumental task. I think it will be an entertaining game, and an interesting matchup but I’m not real worried about the outcome.

UGA scares me just from a talent standpoint. They can match us at almost every position. There are also a lot of unknowns for both teams. I think we’ll have a better gauge on this one after spring games.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:31 am to
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I’m more excited for our defense this year than any other unit in Georgia history.


No way you are more excited for this unit than you were for the 2008 UGA offense.

or are you talking about defensive units, specifically? Apologies if so.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:41 am to
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As far as I see it, the game comes down to Mac Jones. I’m more excited for our defense this year than any other unit in Georgia history. That being said, if there’s a weak spot on our defense it’s probably our secondary.

We return Stokes and LeCounte, who will be great, but the 2nd CB will be Tyson Campbell. He was good as a freshman, but didn’t play a ton this year with injuries. The 2nd safety spot will go to sophomore Lewis Cine, who started at Star against LSU last year. If there’s a weak spot it’s probably him.

We really have no idea how good offense will be. I’m not super worried about the OL because we had a ton of guys play because of injuries. It really comes down to Monken and Newman.

The UGA defense scares me, but if there's any offense in the country that has the weapons to put up some points on that defense, it's Bama. Najee and Sanders at RB, Smitty and Waddle at WR, with a veteran OL and either Mac or Young at QB--should be a problem for any defense to contain for 4 quarters. As long as Bama doesn't turn the ball over multiple times--I expect Bama to put up around 30 points give or take.

To me the key is Bama's rebuilt defense vs UGA's rebuilt offense. Truth is both of those units have a ton of question marks and a ton to prove. I think Bama's defense will be noticeably better than last year, but how much better probably henges on if Moses is fully healthy and if some of our new DB's come along--not to mention finding some edge rushers. For UGA, you have basically an entire new OL and OL coach. They should be solid, but probably not on the level of what we saw the last couple of years. Newman is also a mystery. When you break down his stats at Wake by opponent, and remove the non power 5 teams, his stats against even decent teams leave ALOT to be desired. I'm not even convinced he'lll win the job or be able to keep the job. UGA loses it's top 2 backs and outside of Pickens has zero proven playmakers at the skill positions. At this point, I'd lean to Bama winning the game 30-24 or something like that--but it could just as easily swing the other way with a similar score if our defense doesn't improve as much as we think it will.
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