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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:07 pm to
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no one on UGA's offense scares me at al


Their backs and Pickens certainly scare me. And they'll be running an entirely new scheme with a new QB and new O-linemen.

We catch them early, so they may still be figuring it out, but they'll definitely present more challenges than their 2019 unit would have.

And our defense..... well we'll see if we're back to being great or still up and down.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Their backs and Pickens certainly scare me.


Who are their backs?

And yeah, Pickens is certainly talented, kind of forgot about him.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Who are their backs?



White, Cook, McIntosh, Milton

Nobody that scares you quite as much as Swift, but a very good stable of them
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 12:28 pm to
the UGA/Bama game is the first really big SEC game of the season. Being at home, I think Bama wins a close game. Both teams have tons of talent. I think Bama prevails as Saban never seems to lose to one of his assistants.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:18 pm to
I'm nervous about Mac Jones against their defense. UGA has athletes all over their defensive line up. Will our running backs have room to operate ? Bama's offensive line is going to be awesome barring unforeseen injuries. On Bama's defense, I'm concerned about defending Pickens. They will test the secondary much like LSU did last year. I'm also interested in seeing if their new QB can scramble like Burrow did and hurt the defense. Lots of things to think about with this match up.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:27 pm to
It'll be an awesome atmosphere - had this one circled for a while.

Really a pretty good home schedule next year with Georgia, Texas A&M and Auburn all at BDS.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:36 pm to
Definitely awesome. It's going to be hot as hell, too, in the stadium. No doubt it's going to be a 2:30 CBS game. I'm interested to see how much the linebackers and front have improved. Will Dylan Moses be near 100% ? Having A&M and Auburn on back to back weeks will be hard. A&M will be a dark horse with an easier schedule and Mond as a senior.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:52 pm to
CBS might select it as the primetime game of the season and that will make it a 7 o'clock kick. Likely to be a top 4 matchup.
Posted by prevatt33b
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 1:55 pm to
GA loses a ton offensively, but Smart made a fantastic hire in their new OC. Just an absolute homerun hire. Their offense is immediately out of the stone ages and will be modern this September.

GA's defense will likely be even better next year.

I expect Bama to be better overall next year, mostly due to health, a half dozen Dlineman coming of age, a loaded offense, and upperclassmen talent at ILB. Bama will be really good in 2020.

We'll see.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:40 pm to
The key for Alabama really comes down to what happens for us at QB (can we get not solid, but elite play at the position from Mac or a young Bryce Young?) and can our defense get back to being a top 5 type defense? I think we need both of those things to happen in order for us to beat what will be a top 3 UGA team. If our defense still looks sloppy and lost, gonna be tough to win that one. Likewise, their defense will absolutely commit to shutting down the run game--and they have the front 7 to do it. They will force our QB to win it in the air, with a blitz in his face every play. If we can make them pay, we likely win. If not, gonna be a tough day.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 2:43 pm
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 2:55 pm to
That's the issue. Jones is solid but not an elite QB like Tua. Bryce Young probably won't be ready for the type of athletes that Georgia will present so early in the season. It's a big concern. I could say the same thing about USC in the opener. They have a very good QB and a lot of play makers returning. It may be a high scoring game that takes elite QB play to win.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:10 pm to
Well if we drop a game , I don’t want it to be to a West Opponent
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:12 pm to
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I'm nervous about Mac Jones against their defense.


What he did last season against two good defenses is encouraging besides the 2 pick sixes. Hopefully he has learned his lesson about throwing it to the other team.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:15 pm to
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The key for Alabama really comes down to what happens for us at QB (can we get not solid, but elite play at the position from Mac or a young Bryce Young?)


I disagree. I don't think that we need Mac to be a world-beater. If he can have few turnovers and get the ball downfield(which he has proven that he can) then we have enough play makers at WR and RB to score a lot of points on pretty much anyone.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 2/17/20 at 3:41 pm to
Whoever the QB is will have to be elite to beat the top tier opponents. You can't just run the ball every single play. All of our past championship QBs have made elite plays in big moments. GMac, Blake Sims, McCarron, Coker, Jalen and Tua all had big moments where they had to be clutch. Whoever runs the show this year will have to be elite from the get go. The schedule is very tough. And if we somehow make the playoff, we will have to beat Clemson and or Ohio State to win it all. Both of them have elite signal callers.
This post was edited on 2/17/20 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:28 am to
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You can't just run the ball every single play. All of our past championship QBs have made elite plays in big moments. GMac, Blake Sims, McCarron, Coker, Jalen and Tua all had big moments where they had to be clutch. Whoever runs the show this year will have to be elite from the get go.


Right.

GMac, Sims, McCarron, Coker, Jalen=not elite

also

GMac, Sims, McCarron, Coker, and Jalen=4 NCs, 5 SECCs

also

having an above-average QB=/=running the ball every play.


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:37 am to
We've kind of fallen in love with this "elite" or "not elite" classification.

Mac Jones may not be "elite", but we threw the ball with him 25 times vs Michigan and 39 times vs Auburn. I think it's pretty clear we aren't going to be going back to the 2009 Alabama offense if Mac is playing QB.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 8:46 am to
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I disagree. I don't think that we need Mac to be a world-beater. If he can have few turnovers and get the ball downfield(which he has proven that he can) then we have enough play makers at WR and RB to score a lot of points on pretty much anyone.




This is so. The offensive identity is working for or against what you strive to be on defense. If Mac keeps his job I can see a much more "grounded" effort than even his games he started last season. It lets the defense play field position. It allows them to tackle better and learn to wrap up and play with more discipline and fundamentals in practice. Muscle memory we've been missing with our defense as they've spread out and had to chase the offensive high wire act in practice, every day, the last 2 seasons. They will also be a more rested bunch.

In short, Mac Jones winning the job would probably be the best thing that could happen to a Pete Golding led defense.

Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:39 am to
I agree we can win with Mac. As well as he played in the Iron Bowl, he absolutely lost the game on the pick 6's. That just can't happen in a big game. Ever. Without those two plays, we likely win the game comfortably and perhaps even sneak into the playoffs. By elite, I mean the ability to make plays on offense, AND not kill us with turnovers. If a QB is gonna turn the ball over, he has to be able to make up for it by throwing for 400 yards and 5 TDs or something ridiculous to make up for it. I don't think Mac has that type of Tua-like playmaking ability. He also doesn't give us the duel-threat edge we had with Jalen and a healthy Tua. All that to say, his margin of error is much smaller without some of the tools a guy like Tua had. Young likely gives us some of those dangerous tools back at QB, but he doesn't have the experience of Mac and would likely turn the ball over more.

Gonna be a tough call for Saban. I could see a situation where they share snaps the first couple of games of the season. I could also see a scenario where Mac starts the season but gives way to Young somewhere during the season as he gets more comfortable in the offense. The challenge this season, unlike many previous seasons, is that we get two of our toughest games of the year right out of the gate. No real time to tinker and experiment, we've got to be ready to roll day 1 because USC and UGA both have the talent to challenge us.

On a side note---how hilarious would it be if Mac starts against UGA, and Young comes off the bench in the 2nd half and leads a come-back win. The Georgia fan base melt would be legendary.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:55 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:15 am to
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He also doesn't give us the duel-threat edge we had with Jalen and a healthy Tua. All that to say, his margin of error is much smaller without some of the tools a guy like Tua had. Young likely gives us some of those dangerous tools back at QB, but he doesn't have the experience of Mac and would likely turn the ball over more.



I was actually really impressed with Mac's quickness/elusiveness in the pocket, and his speed out of it.
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