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Tua the favorite to win the heisman according to Westgate Las Vegas Superbook.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 8/14/18 at 11:47 am
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There's a new favorite to win the 2018 Heisman Trophy.
Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa now owns the best odds to win the award, according to the Westgate Las Vegas Superbook. The sophomore's current odds sit at 4-1.
Tagovailoa takes the mantle from Stanford running back Bryce Love, who was the favorite for oddsmakers as of June 8 with 5-1 odds.
The update comes despite the fact Tagovailoa hasn't been named Alabama's starter for the 2018 season yet, though he's considered the favorite to wrestle the role away from Jalen Hurts.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:04 pm to jatebe
Holy Shite. It’s one thing to be the favorite but that’s confidence right there.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:09 pm to jatebe
Can I bet the short? Don’t get me wrong I think Tua’s going to be awesome and our offense will be scary this year. BUT, I don’t think we we get so far pass heavy to allow Tua to win the heisman.
We need to get plenty of carries for our extremely talented stable of running backs, and they will have a lot more running lanes than a year ago due to the threat of passing.
Saban will always try to have a balanced offense. McCarron was only a heisman finalist as a career achievement award. He was great, but Bama qbs won’t put up the same stats as your normal heisman qb candidates.
We need to get plenty of carries for our extremely talented stable of running backs, and they will have a lot more running lanes than a year ago due to the threat of passing.
Saban will always try to have a balanced offense. McCarron was only a heisman finalist as a career achievement award. He was great, but Bama qbs won’t put up the same stats as your normal heisman qb candidates.
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:17 pm to jatebe
Most of this is due to Bama's o/u win total being 11, with most folks picking us to go undefeated. Generally speaking, the Heisman goes to the best offensive player on the best team. If the best team doesn't have a guy, then they go down the Top 25 till they find one, usually not going far.
Replace Tua with Will Grier, and he'd have the best odds in the country, and the same is true for a number of players.
Replace Tua with Will Grier, and he'd have the best odds in the country, and the same is true for a number of players.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 12:35 pm to jatebe
He certainly has the talent, but who knows?
It'd be crazy if say Tua were to win this year and then Najee wins being a bell cow in 2019. Get a little Leinart/Bush double Heisman backfield going.
But the likelihood is that neither wins
We can dream.
It'd be crazy if say Tua were to win this year and then Najee wins being a bell cow in 2019. Get a little Leinart/Bush double Heisman backfield going.
But the likelihood is that neither wins
We can dream.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:12 pm to jatebe
He'd have to have insane numbers to win the Heisman.
Because, he won't get any votes for "willing his team to victory".
Numbers would have to be in the 4000/30/10 range, with a good mix of running yardage and rush TDs.
Because, he won't get any votes for "willing his team to victory".
Numbers would have to be in the 4000/30/10 range, with a good mix of running yardage and rush TDs.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 1:46 pm to East Coast Band
Pretty much. The only way Tua throws for a ton of yards is if he has to because the defense has taken a step back (like 2014) or the run game isn’t as good.
You would have to go back to 2006 Heisman winner Troy Smith to find a QB that didn’t have close to 4000 total offensive yards or above prior to the bowl game.
You would have to go back to 2006 Heisman winner Troy Smith to find a QB that didn’t have close to 4000 total offensive yards or above prior to the bowl game.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:31 pm to 1BamaRTR
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You would have to go back to 2006 Heisman winner Troy Smith to find a QB that didn’t have close to 4000 total offensive yards or above prior to the bowl game.
I think Tua would probably end up with say 250ish rushing yards by that point, and 3300-3400 passing yards. Through 13 games that'd put him somewhere between 253.84 YPG - 261.53 YPG. Neither is an outlandish number for a guy of Tua's talent with the offensive firepower we have.
When it comes to the Heisman, stats are huge, but hype matters. "Heisman moments" matter, and to be fair one could call Tua's game winner a Heisman moment, but that was last season. Also, being on one of the top teams matters.
If Tua is over 3k passing yards (which if he is I don't think he'll be TOO far past it) and has the kinda decent little rushing numbers you'd expect, and his TD numbers are good, and he's 13-0, and has made some nice plays, I could see him winning. He is already getting hype for it. Will all of that happen? Time will tell, but I think there's a lot of factors that definitely help him out.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:57 pm to jatebe
If the line holds, Tua will be the first every college football player to be the heisman favorite to start the season without previously starting a game.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 3:18 pm to jatebe
Is that better or worse than his odds to win the starting job?
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