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tider04
Alabama Fan
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
4059 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
Mac is a better option than Lia if for no other reason than he knows our offense really well. That said, I'm not comfortable with any of our options if Tua is out for a big game. Mac doesn't have elite arm strength and he's not all that mobile. At best, we'd hope he could be a really good game manager ala McElroy.


prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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Mac doesn't have elite arm strength



Elite arm strength is the single most overrated QB characteristic, particularly at the college level. Alabama could win 4 consecutive national championships with noodle arm Chad Penngington at QB because he could read a defense at an NFL level.

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he's not all that mobile


He's not a runner, but he can move in the pocket and can scramble for obvious yards. That's plenty. It's funny that the fanbase screams "STOP RUNNING TUA!" while simultaneously belting "DON'T PLAY MAC 'CAUSE HE CAN'T RUN!"

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At best, we'd hope he could be a really good game manager ala McElroy.


I'm giddy at this prospect. If our 2nd QB is Greg McElroy quality, then the rest of CFB is fricked.

Seriously, Mac Jones looks to be able to play, and is light years beyond any past "clipboard holder"-type QB we've had in the past, and any fan who considers him such is just plain wrong. Dude's a quality 4-star prospect who's shown he can play, and I'm confident he can get it done.

However, 30% of this forum will still consider Lia to be QB2 and the heir apparent to his brother. If we're honest, I'm not even positive Taulia will EVER start at Alabama. He's a 5'11" middling prospect with a name and an pretty good arm. That's fricking it.



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prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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You mean like bring in a true freshmen like Nick did with #13? You're impressed with your own bullshite sport!


If you think that bringing in a Freshman QB to win games, particularly in the first half of the season, if what coaches are seeking to do, then you don't know your pussy from a hole in the ground.

You're using the exception to prove the rule. Tua was the hands down best prospect of his signing class and a once in a decade type recruit. At best, Taulia was bottom of the top 10 in a down year for HS QBs, not to mention that he's a full 2 inches shorter than his brother, who's not tall to begin with. No, height isn't everything, but some of you need to be honest with yourselves about what kind of prospect/young player Taulia is. He's not his brother, and isn't close. He could turn out to be a fine QB, and I'd be stoked at it happening, but the evidence points to him being very much a project-type QB who contributes in the 2nd half of his career.

Lastly, Tua was brought in because our starter was playing awful and he was our next best option. There was no 4-star QB with 2 more years of experience ahead of him at #2. But there damn sure is that in front of Taulia.

Josey, you seem to be the one who's enamored with your own shite opinions, which are just that - shit.


SummerOfGeorge
Atlanta Braves Fan
Brookhaven-Oglethorpe Station
Member since Jul 2013
54927 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
I hope Mac is a solid option, but I'd be lying if I said that option terrifies the shite out of me.


John Milner
Alabama Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4883 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
I think we're probably getting a little too worked up for nothing.

I don't think Tua is injury prone or soft. He played plenty his first year and had no injuries as far as I know. Last year he was injured vs Arkansas and it hampered him the rest of the year. It was oft repeated that though he could play and not risk more injury, time off was the only thing that would totally heal the knee. So take the time off. The ankle injury suffered in the UGA game was scoped, so hopefully that'll be ok.

As for backups, we're in about as good shape as any other team. A Tua Tagovailoa or Jalen Hurts backup is a luxury few teams ever have. I don't expect it again in my lifetime.

I worry less about quarterback than I do the secondary. Hopefully that'll be better this year.


phil4bama
Alabama Fan
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
6986 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
Any chance Tua just didn’t want to go to the Manning camp so he has a tight hammy just to bow out gracefully and not look like a dick?

Personally I have no problem with that if it is indeed the case.


John Milner
Alabama Fan
Member since Jan 2015
4883 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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Personally I have no problem with that if it is indeed the case.


me either


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prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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I hope Mac is a solid option, but I'd be lying if I said that option terrifies the shite out of me.


You know, George - I'm the opposite. BAma has been so dominant over the last decade and I've gotten spoiled to the point that I'd be quite interested in any narrative tweeks that could come along in a season. Having played quite a bit of ball myself, some of the best moments and stories come from scenarios where 2nd teamers get an opportunity to shine. Don't get me wrong - I certainly want Tua to stay healthy; but I'd be remiss if I didn't also say that if Tua goes down and Mac comes in to play meaningful snaps, I'll be on the edge of my bourbon enjoying the piss out of the ride, chairman of the BigMac Jones for Heisman Committee. Roll Tide. We'll win with you or without you.


CrimsonTideMD
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2010
5302 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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Having played quite a bit of ball myself


Took a page and a half, but there it is.

Image: https://media1.giphy.com/media/RPx04h8iPidAQ/giphy.gif
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tider04
Alabama Fan
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
4059 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
The sad thing is, he seems to have some decent insight. It's just hard to see through all the BS and false sense of self-importance most of the time.


prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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Took a page and a half, but there it is.


We all come here regularly to talk football, and you're saying it's improper to reference one's playing days on a sports forum? Are you fricking serious?

When my real life buddies talk football, it's perfectly normal for any person to reference his playing days, and I'm sure the same is true for anyone here who played a bit of ball. But you're sitting there telling me that referencing that stuff, even briefly, on this forum is some faux pa that you're the fricking gate-keeper of? Why? 'Cause we're pseudo-anonymous strangers?

frick that shit, hoss, and frick whatever random set of internet manners you subscribe to. If poopooing folks talking about real life sports experience on a sports forum is now something to be hated on, then I really don't know what this fricking world has come to.

Yes, I'm an arse sometimes, and I deserve all the flak anyone wants to sling my way as a result. I've been a little fiery lately, but it's only the manifestation of my inability to wait patiently for the season. I'm antsy and will dial it back soon. But the gate-keeping you did here is just...just...pathetic and sad. I don't know what else to say.


prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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false sense of self-importance most of the time


It's a persona, guy, and not an accident - because the internet isn't real life. None of this is real. This isn't the real me typing - it's acting. It's just who I choose to be on here, like an escape. Sometimes it's nice to get the pompous arse out and not be that guy IRL, like Fight Club, but just being a dick with words instead of punching real people in the face. No one should take it personally - none of this is real. It's the internet.


Evolved Simian
Alabama Fan
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
15283 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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Mack Jones is our number 2


I find it hard to take you seriously since you don't even know his name.

Yes, Jones is the #2, but there is a huge dropoff from Tua. Maybe even bigger than the dropoff to #3 Taulia.


prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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I find it hard to take you seriously since you don't even know his name.


Ah, yes. Thank you for pointing out my one letter typo, which I obviously corrected in subsequent posts since then. But everyone owes you a debt of gratitude. Anyone who makes such a mistake should be flogged in the streets and euthanized, as he/she cannot possibly contribute to society.


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Evolved Simian
Alabama Fan
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
15283 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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If Greg McElroy can win a natty, so can Mac Jones with the talent on offense this year.




McElroy also lost three games in 2010 with what, at the time was the most talented Alabama offense ever. (A Heisman winner and three NFL starters at RB in the backfield, plus a NFL HOFer at wide receiver.)


prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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McElroy also lost three games in 2010 with what, at the time was the most talented Alabama offense ever. (A Heisman winner and three NFL starters at RB in the backfield, plus a NFL HOFer at wide receiver.)


Yeah, but we were fine until DJ FLuker went down for half the season. I'm convinced that if he had never gotten hurt, we'd have made a run at another natty that year. Our offense was just never the same during the Oline shuffling that occurred when he was out.
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CrimsonTideMD
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2010
5302 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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referencing that stuff, even briefly, on this forum is some faux pa that you're the fricking gate-keeper of? Why? 'Cause we're pseudo-anonymous strangers? frick that shit, hoss, and frick whatever random set of internet manners you subscribe to.


Image: https://media1.giphy.com/media/DrHjpWKbHw9cA/giphy.gif



For someone’s who’s obviously played quite a bit of ball, I’d expect you take a little good natured locker room ribbing a bit more gracefully.


1BamaRTR
New Orleans Saints Fan
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
12999 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
All this because he posted a gif. Pretty sure he was joking around.


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prevatt33
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
2837 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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 I’d expect you take a little good natured locker room ribbing


Fair point, but I didn't read it as that. I read it as gatekeeping of the worst variety, given the nature of the forum. But still, fair point.


Commander Data
Alabama Fan
Titletown, USA
Member since Dec 2016
6077 posts

re: Tua has a “tweaked hamstring” and will miss Manning Passing Academy
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sad thing is, he seems to have some decent insight. It's just hard to see through all the BS and false sense of self-importance most of the time.



We have all been around long enough to have gotten to know the personality of each regular poster. Prevatt is a kind of, in your face poster with very strong opinions. I happen to be the board pessimist. I hate to see us bickering over the stuff though it's human nature I guess. Let's try to remember that we are all on the same team.


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