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Trick Plays: Underrated element of Saban's Tenure?

Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:31 pm
This could be largely revisionist theory, but it seems to me that Bama has had a great track record with trick or surprise plays under Saban and they happen more often than one might think. Who knows if CNS designed the plays, called them, or just OKd them when the OC made the call but we seem to hit way more than we miss. Feel free to add some to the list especially failed calls because its way harder to remember those

Worked
Clemson onside kick
Pass out of wildcat vs. Arkansas 2009
Maze pass vs. Florida
Flea Flicker from AJ to Bell vs. Auburn
Pass to Brandon Greene in OT vs. LSU
Aj to Williams out of FG formation
Two point conversion vs. Auburn

Ardarius Stewart pass vs Clemson
Fake field goal vs. LSU in the national championship game
AJ to Bell Flea Flicker vs Texas A&M
Fake punt for first down in SECCG vs. Georgia
Ambush onside vs. Vols 2007
Flea Flicker vs. Missouri

Did not work
Fake field goal vs. South Carolina
Punter throwing the ball vs. texas
Maze pass in the GOTC
Weird onside kick to start iron bowl 2014?

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:34 pm to
It just goes in the face of the weird idea in the national media that Saban is some sort of pearl clutching conservative. Anybody who has watched us knows that is far from the truth. Saban sees targeted trick plays and fakes as ways to shift emotion and momentum in games. Almost all of his fakes are at specific instances to stem momentum or bury a team.

We ran a fake punt early in the 1st quarter in 2010 at Penn State down 3-0 at our own 40. Barely got it.

The 4th and 2 against Auburn in 2014 near midfield is what swung the game. If we didn't get that we were fvcked.

We ran a fake punt against LSU in 2013 on our own side of the field tied 17-17 with 8 minutes left in the 3rd quarter that changed the game. Outscored them 21-0 the rest of the way.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:41 pm to
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LSU


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21-0


Posted by Glorious
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24431 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:44 pm to
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It just goes in the face of the weird idea in the national media that Saban is some sort of pearl clutching conservative.


Meant to put this in the OP

This thought first popped in my head last year when the media was acting like Chris Peterson and Saban were from completely different planets
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 12:45 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 12:46 pm to
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This idea first popped in my head when the media was acting like Chris Peterson and Saban were from completely different planets


Haha it's so true. Some people seem to think Saban has all these NFL players, runs every play out of the Maryland I and is terrified of doing anything that is "fun". People don't like to actually pay attention to things.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 1:47 pm to
I think a flea flicker with hurts after a handoff would be money as much as we run the ball inside.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24431 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:19 pm to
I think we ought to have a Tebow pass ready out of the formations that Hurts runs a draw out of. Teams crash pretty hard on qb run situations
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 2:25 pm to
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I think we ought to have a Tebow pass ready out of the formations that Hurts runs a draw out of. Teams crash pretty hard on qb run situations


We do a little bit of that on the goal line with the quick hot rat throw to the tight ends. It's devastating to have to cover both the back and Jalen plus the tight end. That opens up so much down there.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16972 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 5:09 am to
It’s a good look and we showed it early, I’d bet money they show it again and let Jalen keep it on the end around when all 11 on the Def crash. If you recall Blake sims TD against Ole Miss, he literally walked in.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 5:10 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 8:59 am to
Big one was a fake punt against LSU in the 3rd quarter in 2013. I think the game was tied at that point and we had stalled out for a while on offense. Went on to score a TD and the rout was on.
This post was edited on 10/6/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12615 posts
Posted on 10/6/17 at 11:04 am to
We had a fake FG against one of the Urban Florida teams that failed. I'm pretty sure it was '08, but I could be remembering wrong.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:28 am to
Onsides kick to start the Tennessee game in 2007 was pretty sweet.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26953 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 10:28 am to
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We had a fake FG against one of the Urban Florida teams that failed. I'm pretty sure it was '08, but I could be remembering wrong.


No...you're correct.
Posted by UASports23
Member since Nov 2009
24344 posts
Posted on 10/7/17 at 4:26 pm to
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Flea Flicker from AJ to Bell vs. Auburn


Quick thinking by AJ. Nice throw and nice vision. I miss AJ.
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