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Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:25 pm to
Lol mistaken
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:30 pm to
That information you got on Brandon is cap!

Sounds good though.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44315 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:31 pm to
It's easy to trace if you don't check your common sense at the door. Unfortunately the NCAA tends to do just that. There are some exceptions (Bronny James for example), but by and large you'd have to suspend your disbelief to accept that the name, image, and likeness of a recently enrolled 4* freshman recruit who hasn't even practiced with the team yet is worth anything, much less $100,000. I don't anticipate any of that stuff ever being seriously policed by the NCAA though, so I don't understand why UA seems to be taking such a hard line stance against it.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 3:33 pm
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 3:53 pm to
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That information you got on Brandon is cap!


Miller was literally down to us, Tennessee State (likely a courtesy), and like 2 pro leagues.

Nate Oats on NIL

And here is a link to quotes from our coach admitting the need for NIL to help us out referencing both HS recruiting and how it hurt us in the transfer portal this past season.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

It's easy to trace if you don't check your common sense at the door. Unfortunately the NCAA tends to do just that. There are some exceptions (Bronny James for example), but by and large you'd have to suspend your disbelief to accept that the name, image, and likeness of a recently enrolled 4* freshman recruit who hasn't even practiced with the team yet is worth anything, much less $100,000. I don't anticipate any of that stuff ever being seriously policed by the NCAA though, so I don't understand why UA seems to be taking such a hard line stance against it.


I agree that it's obvious when players are getting paid to attend a certain school, but as far as tracing wrongdoing according to their rules it's impossible to trace unless the staff/school throw their common sense out the door. In NIL world, all you need is a spoken agreement. There's no more money trail to worry about.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44315 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:16 pm to
I mean, you aren't wrong. All I'm saying is that it's nonsense that circumstantial evidence of guilt is good enough to convict someone of a crime and send them to prison, but not to prove a college is cheating in sports. The NCAA literally imposes a higher burden on itself than the criminal justice system.
Posted by rcbama
birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
268 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:16 pm to
Anybody who doesn't think NIL is hurting us has their head in the sand.

Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:19 pm to
Bro, why didn't it happen with this seasons recruiting class?
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40752 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:20 pm to
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we'd be extremely fortunate to reel in a top 40 class at this point.


Idk if it will be that bad. All depends on how many we recruits we decide to take though versus saving spots for the portal.

Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:22 pm to
When it's all said and done...we will see.

Didn't hurt with this seasons recruiting class!

Btw Nick Saban said the same thing!
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:33 pm to
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Idk if it will be that bad. All depends on how many we recruits we decide to take though versus saving spots for the portal.



"Extremely fortunate" may have been a stretch. That would probably be around where I'd expect us to land. Obviously, if we sign 5 guys again we'll likely land higher since the rankings always favor quantity a lot.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:42 pm to
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This was like 2 weeks ago, and he just committed to another school. You can pump the sunshine if you want, but that's at least a tad concerning that we just lost our top remaining target because UT was able to throw more money at him.


I might actually pay attention to Joka more if he didn’t constantly pump sunshine.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

I mean, you aren't wrong. All I'm saying is that it's nonsense that circumstantial evidence of guilt is good enough to convict someone of a crime and send them to prison, but not to prove a college is cheating in sports. The NCAA literally imposes a higher burden on itself than the criminal justice system.


Totally agree. It's how it's worked even before NIL. Took them years to take down Will Wade with a literal recorded confession.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 5:30 pm to
Just positive guy who never panics under pressure.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5877 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 5:57 pm to


Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25448 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 5:59 pm to
That’s why I like you so much Joka. Me and you are basically the same
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:15 pm to
I appreciate that! Ain't nothing wrong with that bro
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
40752 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 11:07 am to
The SEC released the women’s conference schedules, so the men’s should be coming soon.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
4953 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:53 pm to
Yes! I can't wait. Our strength of schedule will probably be top 10 this season.
Posted by AbSnopes
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2020
909 posts
Posted on 8/17/22 at 1:57 pm to
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I love how y’all just know what goes on behind closed doors


Just believing what Saban said about Jimbo and A&M applies to SEC basketball too.
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